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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby ytterbiumanalyst » Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:28 pm

Amtrak runs from Galesburg to Sandusky! From your direction it arrives and departs Sandusky in the middle of the night, but it's something! The trains I checked were about $130-150 round trip in coach for various dates in July and August.
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Postby Coasters & Lamps » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:06 pm

Coasters & Lamps wrote: Heck, the people in Galesburg can't even visit their last remaining bowling alley to save it from going under.

It really is a small world. I grew up in Orion and my grandpa lives down in Galesburg still. (Pretty much all my family lives in the Midwest.) I'm shocked to hear about the bowling alley as that place always was busy in the evening. I remember when half the thing burnt down a while back. (Well mainly the attached restaurant.) Galesburg is certainly a slow place minus railroad days and the Stearman fly-in.

Back on topic, that is certainly a shame. Do you live in Galesburg or nearby? Do you mind going to parks by yourself and transportation is what's hold you back?[/quote]
It is a small world after all! It's nice to see somebody on this thread who was actually from around here. I live in East Galesburg, along Lake Rice to be exact. Around 2012, I officially moved here from rural Glasford, (Glasford is a small village of 1,000 located on the southern tip of Peoria county.)

The bowling alley caught fire in 2010 and the insurance screwed us over. To make along story short, we have struggled ever since. It does okay in the winter with some loss each year, but the dead summers are what are really killing us. I have done Railroad Days and the Stearmen show. They are fun, but this city used to have a lot more going for it at one time. "Art in the Park", "Cafe in the Park", the Threshwood's cookouts, and the bicycling events have all come to an end.

I don't mind going by myself. Sometimes that would be best anyway because some people in a group don't want to wait in line, and some just want to hit all the overpriced food places, or blow their money on the games. And some just chicken out and refuse to ride some of the rides. I'm all about running from coaster to coaster! But yeah, transportation has been my main sticking point and I don't mind going by myself.

ytterbiumanalyst wrote:Amtrak runs from Galesburg to Sandusky! From your direction it arrives and departs Sandusky in the middle of the night, but it's something! The trains I checked were about $130-150 round trip in coach for various dates in July and August.


Yeah I'm familiar with that option, especially for Cedar Point. It is just a matter of getting over my jitters and doing it. I have never rode a train before. But I may very well do this soon for Cedar Point. I chickened out last year though.

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby djcoastermark » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:35 am

^ Take the train. It's easy and relaxing. More leg room than an airplane. The train has wi-fi, outlets at each seat to charge your devices, a super generous carry on bag and luggage policy, plus Cafe car with bar or some have a full formal dining car. Another plus, is you can bring your own food and drinks in a cooler and put them in the overhead above you. You can move about the train at anytime, from car to car and they even let you know when there is a stop coming up for a smoking break where you can get off and walk around outside for a bit. We don't smoke, but enjoyed hopping off and stretching our legs for about 15 minutes. I have recently started travelling by train from Wash DC to Tampa Fla and love it, and that's an overnighter taking about 20 hours.

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Postby ytterbiumanalyst » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:25 am

^ I agree with everything Mark said here. The main difference between the trains for you is going to be the the diner. First-class accommodations also vary, but it sounds like price is an issue and coach is really good on Amtrak already.

Your two trains to Chicago are the Illinois Zephyr and the Southwest Chief. The Zephyr only has a cafe car, which has microwaved meals. It's not good. The Southwest Chief has a full diner and it's really great. I would highly recommend taking the Southwest Chief (leaves around 11:25 from Galesburg) and get lunch along the trip to Chicago.

Transferring is easy in Union Station, and keep in mind that you can leave the station and re-enter any time. They do have metal detectors, but it's super easy to get through security and you'll only need to be back at Union Station about 30 minutes before departure. Plus, the Southwest Chief has checked baggage (Illinois Zephyr doesn't), so if you've taken that train, you won't need to worry about having bags in Chicago.

The two trains east of Chicago are virtually identical, so schedule is the biggest difference. The Capitol Limited departs earlier and gets you into Sandusky around 12:40 AM. The Lake Shore Limited departs later and gets into Sandusky around 4 AM. Both have a diner-lite, which is better than the cafe car, but the quality of food is more like airplane food. I'd eat dinner in Chicago.

Also, Amtrak has a reputation for being late, but in all my train trips, I've only had a late train once, and that by 2 hours. I had a flight delay of 6 hours once, so you know, stuff happens when you're travelling. Still, you'll want to use Amtrak's train tracker so you'll know where your train is:
https://www.amtrak.com/track-your-train.html?stop_mobi=yes&ref=stop_mobile

Hope that helps; having more information always makes me less nervous.
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Postby operative_me » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:10 am

I'll also give a vote of support for taking the train, for the reasons stated above. I took Amtrak to Chicago and back for a Hawks game and had a great experience. Heck I might take it to Buffalo to check out Darien Lake in a few weeks.

The only word of caution I'd give is about transportation around Sandusky. It really is the middle of nowhere and while there are Uber drivers, my experience has been it is spotty late at night. There are also a few small cab companies, but it might be best to call them and arrange something in advance.

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby teacherkim » Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:32 pm

Invertalon wrote:Made my first visit this season on Sunday… Probably won’t break even on my Platinum Pass at this rate, haha, but what can you do. Thankfully my first visit of the year was absolutely beautiful.

My goal was simply to get a ride on Raptor and MF if nothing else. Weather was beautiful, so expected some hefty crowds. Arrived for early entry at 9am and the park was a ghost town practically until the time I left around 1pm. Hit up Maverick, Millennium Force, Valravn during early entry all walk-on and got to Raptor at 10am. Used to do early entry all the time and don’t even remember it so dead in the morning. So that was a pleasant surprise.

Raptor had the only wait all day (10min?) as the park just opened before we got there. Then Gatekeeper followed by Dragster, also both walk-on. Waited the 4 trains or so for front seat on Dragster, which is always a treat. Took a spin on Magnum and checked out Forbidden Frontier, Petting Zoo and some shops with a closing ride on the cable cars. By the time I left it was slightly more busy, but still wasn’t bad at all. Lot was maybe ½ full?

Steel Vengeance had about a 30 minute wait when I checked on it during early entry, but didn’t really care to ride it. Not sure how busy it got later on.

Park looked great though. Forbidden Frontier is nicely done but think the park needs some workers/actors to explain to those coming in what is going on, how to interact, etc… Also, wish it connected from the Gemini Midway to Frontier, versus being one way in/out of the area from Frontier Trail. Would be awesome to have that cut through the middle of the park.

One of those nice days though where you could have done every major coaster within a few hours if you so desired. Great visit.



I can assure you it didn't stay that light of a crowd on Sunday. All afternoon most big coasters were running 45 min + waits and SV was over an hour. Not sure at what point during early entry you checked on SV but my son and I were in line before the early entry people (we were in at 8 for an ACE event) and by the time they opened the line at 9 there was quite a crowd behind the 60 or so people that were let in at 8.

I do agree with you on FF. Definitely needs way more explanation.

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby Invertalon » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:14 am

Wow, lucked out on timing I suppose! Like I said, we used to go nearly every weekend for early entry and it was common for it to be busy quickly, especially by the time early entry ended. I guess SV just draws the masses, which is good for everything else!

We checked SV right at 9am or so, first ride we walked to and were in front of the masses. I wondered why it was so busy already at that ride, given we were there almost right away, but then found out about the ACE event. At that time, ride wasn't even cycling trains so we bounced to Maverick. I didn't want to waste all the early entry time on SV.
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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby teacherkim » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:05 pm

SV definitely pulls almost all the early entry crowd. My Dad and I dubbed it the "running of the the SV bulls", lol. If you aren't that interested in it you can for sure take advantage to walk on the other early entry rides.

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby diggerg56 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:32 pm

]It's because it's technically beyond straight down for part of the first drop. Difficult to explain but there's a few feet of track that are inward from 90 degrees. Kind of a silly claim but it is what it is.
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