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Re: Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread

Postby jamesk25 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:21 am

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jamesk25 wrote:After studying our park on google maps, there is just not enough land for something big, the water park is the only thing I could see expanding out past its current boundary like the bus parking lot or paintball field.

There's definitely room for additional rides, but no not much for Midway expansion. On the east side there's more than enough room to build two hypers west of the graveyard (one station at Tidal Wave, the other at Ninja) or a giga - that land isn't useful for much else actually an out and back hyper is perfect for it. The west side is definitely harder to add to but you could turn Freeze Island into a new area with one or two flats and potentially a coaster entrance with a smaller coaster itself being able to work around west of Freeze station building and use the land north of Freeze. You might be able to reconfigure the area around Justice League and Log Flume and fit two flats instead of just Shazam. Our biggest issue is money, not space.

Look at how SFoG managed to squeeze Goliath in to the park. Half the ride is built over existing midways and over the parking entrance.


I get what your saying, I should have said "without removing any rides or major $$ modifications", as I like all the rides we have (even Ninja and Boomerang). Like you said it requires more $$ to move or modify, but with the current land that is not being used and not cost major $$ is very little, the land as you mentioned is mostly in the graveyard area of the park past Tidal Wave, other areas is behind Axis Arcade and maybe squeeze a flat in front of justice league by the railroad.

I don't believe we will ever get a "big" coaster in the next decade due to past trends so removing rides is pointless unless they start costing the park money in upkeep, and the closest we will get in terms of roller coasters is anything small and compact like a S&S FreeSpin.

Also I don't believe Ninja will be going anywhere, the GP soaks it up, the land behind Freeze is hard to get to without getting in the way of Thunder River, and the Island where Freeze sits I don't think is in there best interest being they still need to get cranes and such into that tight space. The area by Log Flume and Shazam someone pointed out is blocked by mechanical and the First Aid area.

The only other areas possible is behind The Boss, but that is a ways out there, if they ever get rid of the go carts they could build a coaster and interact with Boss and Thunder River, and finally if they create a path near American Thunder and cross the railway then expand into the unused island of the toll plaza (like Gate Keeper at CP). Again I believe the land they have available to use is tight, without a lot of money and major modifications anything big like another Boss for example, would be financially unfeasible once the current unused land is gone.

Side note: SFoG Goliath again is a hyper, I really doubt we will ever see that big of coaster in our park (at least in the next decade), but do agree it is interesting how they elevated the ride over the park. But I don't see how they would fit that design into the park which is not flat and has a lot of structures and rides that are tightly packed trying to avoid them

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Re: Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread

Postby SixFlagsTimeWarner » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:50 am

Rumor has it that SoG Goliath was designed and intended to be for Six Flags STL.

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Re: Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread

Postby ChrisGraslie » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:19 pm

SixFlagsTimeWarner wrote:Rumor has it that SoG Goliath was designed and intended to be for Six Flags STL.

That's long been speculated, and I'd have to assume it's probably true. From what I remember, the station was supposed to be located in the spot where American Thunder was later placed, in 1904 World's Fair near the moon cars? Could be wrong about that. The layout of Goliath was a tight fit for SFOG, so I'd imagine they probably had to change the design quite a bit when the decision was ultimately made for it to go to a different park. If the rumor is actually true I think it's pretty obvious that we all would have liked to have Goliath and it would have given us that "signature steel coaster" that we are still lacking.

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Re: Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread

Postby Vonni » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:05 pm

^ I'm still salty about it

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Re: Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread

Postby theymitbgi » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:30 pm

SixFlagsTimeWarner wrote:Rumor has it that SoG Goliath was designed and intended to be for Six Flags STL.


Old news, the discount gift shop near Colossus sold Goliath-SFSL keychains until just a year or so ago.

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Re: Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread

Postby ChrisGraslie » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:28 pm

theymitbgi wrote:Old news, the discount gift shop near Colossus sold Goliath-SFSL keychains until just a year or so ago.

What? Really? If anyone has one, please share.

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Re: Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread

Postby SixFlagsAstroworld » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:36 pm

They’ve sold a raging bull magnet with the st louis name on it before.
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Re: Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread

Postby 9Armgeddon4 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:07 pm

Speaking of Bull I though that was the hyper you guys were supposed to get back then while we were going get Mr. Freeze.

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Re: Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread

Postby ChrisGraslie » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:03 pm

9Armgeddon4 wrote:Speaking of Bull I though that was the hyper you guys were supposed to get back then while we were going get Mr. Freeze.

I've heard the rumor that there was a third Mr. Freeze planned for Great America for 1999, but I don't believe that Raging Bull was ever planned for SFSL. Because at the time, Six Flags opened and was expanding SFGAM's Southwest Territory area in planned "phases", the first was Viper in '95, then the main area with the mission and the flat rides opened in '96, followed by Giant Drop in '97, and then Raging Bull in '99. But again, could be totally wrong. If we got screwed out of a hyper coaster twice, that'd be pretty sad :lmao:

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Re: Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread

Postby jamesk25 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:32 pm

SixFlagsTimeWarner wrote:Rumor has it that SoG Goliath was designed and intended to be for Six Flags STL.


That is pretty interesting, I wonder what changed?

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SixFlagsTimeWarner wrote:Rumor has it that SoG Goliath was designed and intended to be for Six Flags STL.

That's long been speculated, and I'd have to assume it's probably true. From what I remember, the station was supposed to be located in the spot where American Thunder was later placed, in 1904 World's Fair near the moon cars? Could be wrong about that. The layout of Goliath was a tight fit for SFOG, so I'd imagine they probably had to change the design quite a bit when the decision was ultimately made for it to go to a different park. If the rumor is actually true I think it's pretty obvious that we all would have liked to have Goliath and it would have given us that "signature steel coaster" that we are still lacking.


That would had a very different change and look to that side of the park, I know American Thunder is loved and is a wonder what they were able to squeeze into that plot of land, but still a hyper to draw spectators and fans would have been awesome. Its a shame we couldn't had both.
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