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Postby Vekoma Fan Boy » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:36 pm

Looks pretty cool. But some of those transitions look BRUTAL. I'd hope what they mean by "Overhead lap bar/not an OTSR" they mean they adopted the rubber vest and overhead lap bar design a la Vekoma's new restraints.

Though, it doesn't look very forceful. It seems more the focus is going really fast really close to the ground and airtime, which isn't bad. But I like a bit of forcefulness on my rides.

ManiaMuse wrote:I wonder how they'll construct the lift on this thing with the super efficient truss support structure. It looks very clever to me the way it arches over so that at the station end it goes straight into the ground and at the other it curves over into the big support, but surely it won't be that stable before it is complete and the track/truss structure probably weighs a lot as well. Like it seems as if there are about 4? track pieces up until the middle support and then another 3? until the drop support. It just seems like a really big span to construct.

Then again I'm no engineer and you see crazy bridges and viaducts under construction that look like they should be falling down and maybe the truss structure is really that strong or they'll support it with wires. Or perhaps the middle support connection is at the centre of that track piece so the gaps aren't quite as big as I'm making out.

Anyway I just think the minimalist support structure is really striking compared to MF's huge towers!


My bet would be that they'll build out from each side and meet in the middle. They built Stonecutters bridge (a Cable Stayed Bridge with a 3,340 foot span) that way.

As for the 'minimalist' support structure, if you look, the actual members used in the supports are a good bit bigger than the members used for MF's towers. It all depends on the factor of safety the supports are built with, the strength of the members and the way the load is transferred throughout the structure.

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Postby FeelTheFORCE » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:37 pm

Josh Linn wrote:This could possibly be the last giga we see. I really can't think of a park that would be a feasible location for one that doesn't already have a hyper or something similar. Now of course that didn't stop Cedar Point from doing it, but they're a special case, IMO. This is very unique and I think we're lucky to have been around when these were announced.


Honestly, I think Kings Island should have gotten a Giga also. It's a big enough park with more than enough land. Some even call it "Cedar Point South." Diamondback is awesome and all, but it just seemed like if anyone, they'd be the ones to build something BIG and unique, not a cookie-cutter, run-of-the-mill B&M Hyper. Oh well, I guess that's why I don't decide what to build where. Great additions regardless.

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Postby Capitalize » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:42 pm

MiniMike wrote:Roller Coasters are to enjoy; Not to complain about the restraints! To be honest, who cares about them anyway. All they do is keep you from falling out, not blocking your blood circulation.

I don't want to be mean but They are just restraints.


Then we should just equip all coasters with a 6 point harness restraint system since its "just restraints" and doesn't effect the ride. Restraints and how constraining/comfortable they are is very important to a ride. Just ask someone who rode a Premier launch coaster before the lap bars...

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Postby Jerrykoala2112 » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:48 pm

Now this looks quite amazing! I love how it is really unique from Milenium Force. I just don't want to black out on the whole ride, I just want to enjoy it! I can't wait!
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Intimidator 305 Announcement Ceremony

Postby cfc » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:49 pm

All the speculation about vertical lifts and splashdown pools can stop now. Kings Dominion has made their "official" announcement about Intimidator 305--aka "the Biggest, Baddest and Meanest on the East Coast," which opens on KD's 35th anniversary in 2010. The park celebrated their new ride with a ceremony today (August 20). Attending were such important personages as:

Dick Kinzel (Cedar Fair's President and Chief Executive Officer)
Jack Falfas (Cedar Fair's Chief Operations Officer)
Bill Bolling (Lieutenant Governor of Virginia)
Jeff Steiner (Executive Vice President and General Manager, Dale Earnhardt, Inc.)
Taylor Earnhardt (Dale's daughter)

And me. (Well, I'm not all that important, but I was there.)

Ed Kuhlman, KD's director of marketing, kicked the ceremony off, stating how this was "the most exciting announcement" in his 34-year career with the park. KD's vice president and general manager, Pat Jones, echoed those sentiments: "This is a very special ride, 35 years in the making. It's what brings guests to the park--fun and thrills." Will this coaster live up to its NASCAR namesake, Dale "The Intimidator" Earnhardt, Sr.? Time will tell, but it looks promising (and possibly intimidating).

Here's a look at the festivities.
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Here's a look at what we're here for, but . . .
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. . . don't forget that Haunt is coming up, too.
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Got my "pit pass."
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This must be "the pit."
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Note the rather coy tarps. "What could be behind them?" one wonders.
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We need more Intamin goodness in this state.
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Sheesh! Everybody what to get into the act. Meet Lee Sandy of Coaster-net.
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And Devin Olson, Coaster-net's Webmaster.
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Hmm--there appear to be mysterious code numbers on this track. We could probably find the Lost Continent of Atlantis if we could just decipher their meaning.
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Ed Kuhlman kicks things off. But is he really the "biggest, baddest, and the meanest"?
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Dick Kinzel and Jack Falfas of CF with Bill Bolling, Lieutenant Governor of Virginia.
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Come on, Pat's not mean at all.
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Lt. Gov. Bolling used to serve on the Hanover County Board of Supervisors, so he and KD go way back, even though he doesn't seem to be a coaster person: "My wife will be on the first ride, while I watch from below."
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Jeff Steiner said that Intimidator embodies the spirit of its namesake perfectly: "You go big, or you go home."
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Taylor Earnhardt shows her enthusiasm for KD's new ride.
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They showed a brief video (which was followed by the sun going nova, as you can tell from this picture).
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The tarp comes down at last.
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Postby cfc » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:50 pm

And now, a look behind the tarp.
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A working model of Intimidator 305--cool.
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One view of the layout.
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Pay no attention to the B&M train on the track.
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This ride is pure Intamin.
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"Help! My butt has left the seat!"
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"My butt may never feel this seat again!"
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Here's another view of the layout, with the back of somebody's head as a bonus.
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And here's the proud modeler--Jack Rimer.
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Lee and Devin with Ken (local ACE representative).
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One of us is quite intimidated.
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"OK, pal! What do I have to do to put you behind the wheel of this baby right now?"
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The part of the car that Earnhardt's opponents have seen the most.
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Larry--it's a sign!
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"Hello! I'm a skeleton, and I'd like to remind you that Haunt is coming up, too."

This little preview center will be stationed next to Flight of Fear (near where Intimidator's entrance plaza will be located.)
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Behold the entrance-plaza concept art . . .
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. . . and the ride layout.
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For all you stats fans out there.
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Just to give you an idea of how tall this bad boy is going to be.
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It will be much taller than Pat Jones.
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There was food, of course.
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But no actual Intimidator wine (just bottles and flags).
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Well, let's see how it's coming along.
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Yep--little yellow things have been placed on concrete things. Let the verticality commence.
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But there is quite a way to go.
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One last look at that intimidating logo.
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No--thank you, Kings Dominion, for a nice event. And for what's to come in 2010.
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Postby chad5871 » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:50 pm

Anyone know how tall that second hill is? It looks like almost half as tall as the lift hill...

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Postby JEAPUgrad » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:50 pm

Josh Linn wrote:My only concern is the sharp transitions. When I rode El Toro, I got a headache from being jerked from one side to the other during that ending segment. I'll just have to pop a few Drammamine before riding I guess.


Be grateful you can actually ride El Toro and be tossed from side to side.

I'm 6'4" approaching 300 pounds (love my weight and not ashamed of it!) and have to be wedged into El Toro so badly you'll need a crow bar to remove my fat ass. I don't get throw around, I don't experience airtime yet the coaster still rocks. I would kill to be able to be thrown around like a rag doll on El Toro.

If you get headaches riding coasters maybe you should consider finding a new hobby.

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Postby themeparkman25 » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:59 pm

Can't wait for this to open!!! It is going to be awesome!!! So much speed, sweet transitions and hopefully some killer airtime. I think this should be one of my favorite coasters.

Why does kingsdominion.com not have this new coaster plastered all over the home page? Or even anywhere for that matter?

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Postby JEAPUgrad » Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:00 pm

Hilltopper39 wrote:
Maybe instead of a single rider they'll have a rednecks only line, or maybe a " Shoes, Shirt, and Jorts must be worn at all times" sign.


Funny you mention that.

I have received probably close to ten calls from "redneck" friends who typically fit the perceived sterotype. They know this is hobby of mine and called to see if I heard the news.

Some of them haven't been to KD since Grizzly was installed and can't wait to ride "Dale's" coaster next year.

The buzz this coaster is creating within the NASCAR market is going to be astounding.

As much as I trashed the potential for a racing theme, I'm willing to eat my words on this one.

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