I feel very lucky to have had a great experience visiting New Years of 2017 going into 2018. The place wasn’t dead but was not crowded, the Mexican restaurant over the log flume was really good, all the rides were running, and although rough in a weird jerky way, I thought Desperado was awesome!!! Much better than I anticipated. Really good sudden airtime and a cool layout.
It’s too bad the fate of these rides is almost certainly permanent closure.
All three time's I've been to Vegas it was for drinking, shows, and nightclubs...none of those industries seem to be hurting.
-Mike Total Coasters: 150(!) Top 10 Steel: Maverick, Skyrush, Intimidator 305, Fury 325, Banshee, Millennium Force, Raptor, Superman: The Ride (SFNE), Top Thrill Dragster, Big Bad Wolf Top 10 Wood: The Beast, El Toro, Phoenix (Knoebels), Boulder Dash, Thunderbolt (KW), Mystic Timbers, Comet (Hershey), Hercules, Shivering Timbers, Jack Rabbit (KW) Top 5 Hybrid: Twisted Timbers, Steel Vengeance, Goliath (SFGAm), Wicked Cyclone, Great White
I have seen that too. I have seen a common reason is online gambling, millennials not really into gambling, the parking fees keeping away the locals, the lack of baccarat and diminishing Asian visitors. I have seen some unwanted changes especially to Caesars rewards program. Just last year I was able to find plenty free options for night stays but this year they changed to one night per 5,000 tier credits. I'm better off just going to one of the other properties and securing a lower hotel rate than being loyal to Caesars.
"B&M will NEVER build a coaster over 300 ft..." until 2012 "Cedar Fair will NEVER build a coaster taller than MF..." until 2015
^Online gambling has been around for a long time. Millennial's not being into gambling is just a lame excuse that's not true IMO. I'm a millennial gambler, and if you are ever in Vegas on a weekend you will see tables full of millennial's. Millennial's, however have a limit on what they will gamble, so you see the $25 minimum tables empty while the $5 and $10 are packed (I stick to $5/10 ultimate Texas holdem, which is still expensive and probably not smart of me...)
Fees definitely play a role. Parking and resorts. Sports betting being legalized nationwide takes something away from Vegas being THE spot for big sporting events. When China cracked down on corrupt gambling junkets, it definitely hurt the high end.
Clubs and shows are down because it's a heavily saturated market without much change. Same resident DJ's, same shows for 10+ years. You pay $5k+ once to see Tiesto with bottle service, you're never going back to do it again.
I love going to Vegas, but really not to gamble. I will play a bit of black jack, but really not much. I enjoy just being able to walk up and down the strip open carry liquor. Also enjoy seeing one show every time and exploring Old Vegas, etc. I don't play too well into the hands of the casinos themselves. But we still make a nice time of it.
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I have a love, hate relationship with Vegas. I should love it. On paper it ticks all the boxes for me but I just don't. I always feel like time spent in Vegas is time that would be better spent driving a few hours away to Southern California or one of the awesome national parks / canyons nearby and I don't really like the casino vibe. It's fun in small doses but that's about it for me. The entire town feels like one giant ripoff hell-bent on taking your money while providing nothing of value in return, often by hustling people or using deceitful marketing tactics (see: high pressure club promoters for clubs that may or may not exist, cabs long hauling people through the tunnel over and over and over, hotel resort fees and parking fees doubling the cost of many rooms on the strip, etc...). That's true of a lot of tourist traps but Vegas takes it to the next level.
Also, even if you have a healthy attitude towards gambling (I'll take out a few bucks, chalk it up as an entertainment expense and expect to lose it all), it's depressing sitting next to someone who looks defeated and is clearly in the process of throwing their life away and those types of people are all over every casino on the strip. It's just not a fun atmosphere. Every time we see some guy at the roulette table looking at that bullsh*t screen showing the "hot numbers" and legitimately believing that there's actual strategy involved (aside from avoiding a basket bet), I die a little inside.
I get that a lot of people love it and there are a few things in Vegas that I really like but overall I just can't get into it.
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