Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby Myself » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:08 pm

woolandmammoth wrote:Thats an awfully soft release for a park like Cedar Point. When I first heard the rumor from a supervisor in May, it was phrased to me as "Floorless Mantis is in the budget". I can't help but think that they might have something else up their sleeves, but tacked on the Mantis transformation to add a thrill based attraction next year. This year's attendance numbers were down significantly last time I was informed, so finding a quick way to spruce up an existing coaster on the cheap might be a marketing plus for another family oriented experience to be announced for next year. Now they can advertise a "new coaster" and a family addition.

TL;DR: This was likely a last second-ish decision to add marketable attraction to a second year of (harder to market) family additions and (impossible to market) park renovations.

It wouldn't surprise me to see other improvements in the park next year. This season was chock-full of improvements that kept being announced separately and honestly felt like they just kept coming (Gemini Midway, Breakers, Lighthouse Point, Slingshot, new restaurants, etc). From an enthusiast standpoint, I felt this approach probably made it feel like more was done to improve the park than if it had all been announced at once. We do know that Breakers' renovation will continue this winter, so there may be some other small, yet noteworthy changes on the way.

I must say I quite like Rougarou's color scheme...I doubt anyone saw that coming after the green paint appeared on Mantis earlier this season. I look forward to riding it at some point. I wouldn't call it a new credit, but in my books it's different enough to be worth checking out regardless. I am interested to see if any other changes occur for Rougarou, however. I could see them demolishing/building onto the existing photo booth and giving the ride a full-blown gift shop like Gatekeeper got.

Speaking of Gatekeeper, I must say I'm interested to see standard floorless trains used here rather than Banshee/wing coaster seats and restraints. I realize the trains would be significantly wider, but aside from the station, I don't think clearance would be as much as an issue for a coaster like Mantis. I'm certainly not complaining as I have no problems with B&M's standard restraints.

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby El Toro_Ryan » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:08 pm

Loving the new color scheme. I always thought Mantis had a great layout so this looks to be even better than it was before. Hopefully the ride will run three trains again too.
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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby thewesker » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:09 pm

Texascoaster89 wrote:Hey everyone! I used to post here all the time under a different s/n but forgot everything about it...including the s/n lol. I'm making my first trip ever to Cedar Point this weekend, can anyone tell me how their Fast Lane Plus works? Is there a separate line that can eventually let me stand in line for the front seat? Also, loose articles, I typically carry a backpack to carry phones, sunglasses, etc. on rides, do they have a place on the platforms to store these? Or do I HAVE to get a fluffy, fluffy bunny filled with medicine and goo? Thanks!

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby PCW_Nut » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:10 pm

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Mrlittle wrote:Also, does this count as a new credit?

I don't see how anyone could count this as a new credit. If this is a new credit any wood coaster that ever got a new train would have to be considered multiple credits.

I was waiting for this debate. I wouldn't count it as a new credit. Sure the trains have changed but it is still the same track layout/etc. I think at the end of the day, if you're a credit whore then ya, but I personally don't feel a new train means a new credit.

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby Texascoaster89 » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:11 pm

Cool thank you for that info, I'm flying from Texas in the morning and going when they open in the evening, and then all day Saturday which is when I'll have my flash pass. How about loose articles? No spaces on station platforms like at Six Flags parks?

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby zdub » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:28 pm

Soo is an announcement going to happen in October now this is confirmed?

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby robbalvey » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:29 pm

It's confirmed! In 2015 Mantis becomes "Rougarou!" Floorless coaster trains added!

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SANDUSKY, Ohio (Sept. 18, 2014) – Cedar Point, The Roller Coaster Capital of the World!®, will introduce a dynamically new riding experience when it unleashes Rougarou™ in the spring of 2015!

Named after a terrifying werewolf-like creature in French folklore, Rougarou [roo-guh-roo] feeds on screams and lurks in and around the swampy lagoon at the center of the park, shared with other coasters like Iron Dragon and Top Thrill Dragster.

Rougarou’s floorless trains will take riders on an epic journey at speeds reaching 60 mph as their feet dangle just inches above the track and the murky waters below. The trains will be manufactured by Bolliger & Mabillard, Monthey, Switzerland, the same team behind rides like Raptor and GateKeeper, and will transform the ride experience dramatically while utilizing the structure and track of the former Mantis roller coaster.

The ride begins with a climb to the top of the 145-foot-tall first hill, providing amazing views of the Cedar Point skyline. After reaching the apex, the trains will make a 180-degree turn to the right and plummet 137 feet, at a 52-degree angle, to within inches above the water. Thrill-seekers caught in Rougarou’s grasp will then be flipped upside-down by a 119-foot-tall vertical loop, spun around a 103-foot-tall dive loop, whipped around a highly-banked 360-degree turn and then twisted upside-down again by the world’s only inclined loop on a floorless coaster, angled at a wicked 45 degrees. Just when guests think the ride is over, the steel beast will take them through a 360-degree flat spin, tight and twisty turns and a figure-eight finale. Riders must be 54” tall to ride Rougarou.

“Rougarou is going to be a fantastic addition to our coaster lineup and our guests are going to love it,” said Jason McClure, vice president and general manager of Cedar Point. “With the swampy waters below, the vibrant colors of the supports and track, lighting and other effects, it will be a ride like no other at the park.”

2015 will also mark the debut of the newly-renovated Hotel Breakers. Located along the mile-long Cedar Point Beach, Hotel Breakers will complete its two-year transformation into the ultimate resort destination. Along with a new exterior, the modernized hotel will have a new entrance portal, classic interior finishes, newly-furnished and remodeled rooms with LCD TV’s, new furniture, bedding and décor, and many other amenities and offerings. Additional enhancements include a new Starbucks and the Surf Lounge bar inside the famous rotunda, widened exterior green space with panoramic views of Lake Erie and an outdoor water play area with zero depth entry and splash features.

“We want to provide a well-rounded and complete vacation experience for our guests, and the enhancements at the Hotel Breakers will help them have just that,” said Jason McClure. “It will have a fun and fresh feel, is steps away from the park and it’s a great place to start new family traditions.”

Other amenities include two pools and Jacuzzis, access to the Cedar Point Beach and Boardwalk, a gift shop, arcade, exercise room, three restaurants, Early Entry (access to some of the biggest rides and coasters before the park opens to the general public), discounted Cedar Point admission tickets, complimentary Wi-Fi and the comfort and convenience of staying right next to the rides and roller coasters of Cedar Point. Reservations for the 2015 season can be placed now online at cedarpoint.com/hotelbreakers or by phone at (419) 627-2106.

The charming waterfront hotel first opened its doors in 1905 as the “largest and greatest hotel on the Great Lakes.” Known for its breathtaking views and cool summer breezes, Hotel Breakers has been an important part of any complete Cedar Point experience. Notable guests over the years have included celebrities such as sharpshooter Annie Oakley, comedians Abbott and Costello, composer John Philip Sousa and six U.S. presidents, including Franklin D. Roosevelt and Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Located on a sandy peninsula along the shore of Lake Erie, Cedar Point has been named as one of the best amusement parks in the world by USA Today, TripAdvisor, The Travel Channel and more. Cedar Point’s amazing lineup of roller coasters has received top billing by CBS News, Time magazine, the Los Angeles Times and many more.
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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby Coaster19 » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:34 pm

Super stoked about this! I wonder if they will announce anything else? Didn't use the #cp2015 for the soft release.
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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby A.J. » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:34 pm

The end of the Stand-up coaster?
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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby DarienLaker » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:37 pm

A.J. wrote:The end of the Stand-up coaster?

Hmm, maybe for Cedar Fair since they only had three stand up coasters in the chain, Mantis (becoming "Rougarou" floorless coaster), Skyrider (sold to someone outside the Cedar Fair chain), and Shockwave at Kings Dominion (now the last stand up coaster in the Cedar Fair chain).
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