bluemen Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 That 1st pic is amazing! All of the bobsleds I've been on have felt sluggish, but the old flying turns apparently weren't. I hope Knoebel's can make their new ride more like the old while still being safe. Do I correctly recall (somewhere in the back of my mind) that classic flying turns had maintenance trouble? If I ever read that, it was in the ol' Traver book. If not, pardon me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomizzle For Rizzle Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 A source told me that the guy who is helping with the rebuild of starliner wants to put one in at Knoebels. I'm sure it will happen, if not there, somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterFanatic Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 A source told me that the guy who is helping with the rebuild of starliner wants to put one in at Knoebels. I'm sure it will happen, if not there, somewhere. That would be John Fetterman and he is a Knoebels Employee. Also [enter top-secret mode] ... a little birdie told me that the MSAP Log Flume may end up at Wild Adventures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCoasterny Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Knoebels has posted on their website some stuff that's new for 2006. The Flying Turns is listed, and two new stuff as well. One is a game called "Dog Pounder" and seems to be a spin off from the Whac-A-Mole game. The third thing is the "XD Theater" which looks like a 3D theater with motion seats, similar to the 4D theaters found at Paramount parks. Check it out here: http://www.knoebels.com/whatsnew.htm (edit) Found out that XD Theater is made by a company called Triotech Amusement Inc. Thier webpage is here: http://www.trio-tech.com/index.html RC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haux Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Flying Turns? As in the old-fashioned bobsled? Are they going to just build a Mack or Intamin bobsled instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canobie Fan Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Somewhere it was posted that they wanted to make an old-school wood one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCoasterny Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 The flying turns is going to be the old-school one, orginally developed by Norman Bartlett and John Miller in the 1930's. The only issue they are facing is the trains. They're talking to PTC about recreating them, since PTC was the company that built the trains. Here's a drawing of what Knoebel's is aiming for: http://www.ultimaterollercoaster.com/coasters/history/early_1900/roar20_3.shtml sffv_1_0_0.sv6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterFanatic Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 If they are already teasing the new coaster than my guess is the all the train "hurdles" have been cleared. I can't wait for this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memphish Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 I'm really interested to see the Flying turns. I had forgotten about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 From what I heard from inside sources...it's confirmed. It will open for late this season. the_bench__6_.sv6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Looks like another year at PPP for me! I need another credit!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteornotes Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Kickass. One of the best parks ever gets even better... dt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterguy618 Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Yay! I get another credit next year! That's cool that they are bringing a classic coaster back to life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted January 21, 2006 Author Share Posted January 21, 2006 http://knoebels.com/whatsnew.htm Have a look at the website! This is what I see: There is also an update page with some new information about the ground breaking: http://www.knoebels.com/update.htm --Robb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 DOG POUNDER??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrthwnd Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 XD Theater??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 DOG POUNDER??? I can't wait for that one! I've only ever seen archive footage of Flying Turns style rides, but they look like a lot of fun, and the nearest we've had to them for a while are the Mack & Intamin Bobsled coasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 "Dog Pounder"--a name that works on so many levels, ranging from having your feet pounded with a sledgehammer to engaging in forbidden acts of bestiality. Interesting place, this Knoebels. Need to check it out someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterFanatic Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 I have a feeling that more people might be meeting me for breakfast this year at PPP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dailey Enterprizes Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Haha, all it means to me is that I "still" have to get to Knoebels Grove. It's sad that I live in PA (clear across the state) and never been there before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reon Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Bobsleds this close to Ohio? Sweet! Knobles is still pay-per ride right? Maybe Ill make a detour there on my roadtrip this summer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterCrazy Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 ^Yes, Knoebels is still pay-per ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezus Juice Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 I think this means a late season trip to PA! Like I need an excuse to go back to K-nobs! -Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
restoca Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Haha, all it means to me is that I "still" have to get to Knoebels Grove. It's sad that I live in PA (clear across the state) and never been there before. At least you needn't fear that Knoebel's is going to vanish anytime soon. I'm in TX and have been there three times, so if I'm any example, they have plenty of far flung supporters... But you do need to get there... Lovely drive along the Susquehanna River from Harrisburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 I've only ever seen archive footage of Flying Turns style rides, but they look like a lot of fun, and the nearest we've had to them for a while are the Mack & Intamin Bobsled coasters.... and they aren't even in the same area code... Is the achive footage on-line? If so, link please. All I have found are still photos. I rode the Euclid Beach FT's many times as a kid and it is still atop my ride list. If you like out-of-control twisters, you will love the FT's. I mean how much more out-of-control can you get than no rails? Of course I am assuming that Knoebel's will "do it right", which should be a pretty good bet. But I'd also bet we're looking at 2007 here given the absence of any design info, let alone construction updates. Hope I am wrong here though. The only negative I see is ride capacity, especially if they use the EB style, 3-car trains as seen in my avatar. At only two per car (Wild Mouse style) the Coney Island 5-cars would obviously help some. Still I'd expect that it would be hard to get above 600/ hr or so given modern safety considerations... There were no mid-course, safety block, brake segments in the EB version. Here is a post over at CF I made in a similar thread last November. http://www.coasterfanatics.com/sec_forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=646&KW=flyin+turns&PN=0&TPN=2 And here is a nice pic of a FT car.... note the caster wheels.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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