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Re: Six Flags Fiesta Texas (SFFT) Discussion Thread

Postby Jakizle » Sun May 29, 2011 10:42 pm

ArizonaGuy wrote:Any word of what was discussed during the Q&A session at NTAG Bash in Dallas about the Rattler being one of the next Six Flags coasters to get some Rocky Mountain treatment. Is it just the topper track or is it gonna get a nice make over like Texas Giant???


I think either is very possible at this point. Regardless, I think we will be seeing the original drop back!

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Re: Six Flags Fiesta Texas (SFFT) Discussion Thread

Postby ArizonaGuy » Sun May 29, 2011 11:11 pm

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I would totally KILL to have that first drop back.(well not really because then I'd be in prison and wouldn't be able to ride it) but anyways.....I rode the Rattler when it opened in 1992 and that first drop was absolutely amazing and quite honestly scared me a bit. Being able to have it back would be awesome. The taller fan curve would be nice as well as it too has been butchered over the years as well.

I definitely vote "Extreme Makeover: Rattler Edition"
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Re: Rattler REHAB NOW!

Postby texcoaster » Mon May 30, 2011 7:36 am

Jakizle wrote:Just got off Rattler front row and Im back in line to try the back. Guess what? The topper track is fantastic and feels like a wooden coaster. Basically it feels like a brand new GCI...its silky smooth but still has that great wooden coaster vibration. I think its all because the NTAG rides tight to the rails while these woodies with topper track still have the same PTCs that dont ride the rails as tight. Basically I think the topper track is what will become extremely popular as it makes rides really smooth, will keep them reliable, but still keep the wooden coaster feel.


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Can you imagine if that little coaster became consistently smooth and gave "rain ride" quality rides each time?

It was running really well the other day when I was there (62 seconds lift-to-brake), but I hate the (very real) possibility each time that I'll drive down there and it will be a crap day at nearly 70 seconds. Low 60's on that ride are top-10 worthy. Low 70's on that ride are brutal, bone-jarring crap.

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Re: Six Flags Fiesta Texas (SFFT) Discussion Thread

Postby texcoaster » Mon May 30, 2011 7:45 am

ArizonaGuy wrote:^^
I would totally KILL to have that first drop back.(well not really because then I'd be in prison and wouldn't be able to ride it) but anyways.....I rode the Rattler when it opened in 1992 and that first drop was absolutely amazing and quite honestly scared me a bit. Being able to have it back would be awesome. The taller fan curve would be nice as well as it too has been butchered over the years as well.

I definitely vote "Extreme Makeover: Rattler Edition"


Ditto on the return of the first drop and all of the awesomeness that it was. My one ride on it pre-butchering is mostly a blur, but I remember that at the midpoint of the drop when it twisted slightly and got steeper, the ENTIRE TRAIN started spewing profanities and reaching for the lapbars. Delicious.

As for the fan curve, I'd say leave it low like it is. The train crawled over it originally, but the lower version (with the replacement of the original first drop) might just give some floater air.

Topper track or extreme makeover? While I would LOVE to see the extreme NTAG style makeover on Rattler (especially doing something radical with the helix), I'm guessing that it will be a topper track project. They've already toppered some of it and it seems odd that they'd go through that trouble this year just to rip it all off next year and do Iron Horse. I'm thinking that the topper this year was a test and if it goes well (as it seems to be), the rest of the ride will get it for next year - with a few modifications to the layout, but not a totally new layout like NTAG.

Just speculatin'

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Re: Six Flags Fiesta Texas (SFFT) Discussion Thread

Postby ArizonaGuy » Mon May 30, 2011 11:26 pm

texcoaster wrote:
Ditto on the return of the first drop and all of the awesomeness that it was. My one ride on it pre-butchering is mostly a blur, but I remember that at the midpoint of the drop when it twisted slightly and got steeper, the ENTIRE TRAIN started spewing profanities and reaching for the lapbars. Delicious.

As for the fan curve, I'd say leave it low like it is. The train crawled over it originally, but the lower version (with the replacement of the original first drop) might just give some floater air.

Topper track or extreme makeover? While I would LOVE to see the extreme NTAG style makeover on Rattler (especially doing something radical with the helix), I'm guessing that it will be a topper track project. They've already toppered some of it and it seems odd that they'd go through that trouble this year just to rip it all off next year and do Iron Horse. I'm thinking that the topper this year was a test and if it goes well (as it seems to be), the rest of the ride will get it for next year - with a few modifications to the layout, but not a totally new layout like NTAG.

Just speculatin'


I totally agree with your comment about the original first drop. I recall that slight twist in the first drop where the drop got really steep and the "F" bombs started dropping.

I also thought about them possibly doing more topper track in the future but it was my understanding that the topper track is only in a very small section of the ride. Even if they do still keep the topper track going, the two things that would be nice would be the original first drop(or something quite close to it) and them getting rid of the helix and replacing it with something better. If they can't replace the helix, they can always bank all the curves. :-) who knows....
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Re: Six Flags Fiesta Texas (SFFT) Discussion Thread

Postby jps294 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:23 pm

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Re: Six Flags Fiesta Texas (SFFT) Discussion Thread

Postby PAL » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:49 pm

Visited the park on Weds, a first time. Beautiful, much nicer than the typical Six Flags park. Operations though were typically poor. Rattler, the mine train and Goliath each ran one train. I timed 3 Rattler cycles: 5:35, 6:40, 7:25! Weak.

I have a new worst woody. Rattler makes Mean Streak a walk in the park. Awful!

We checked out the remodeled theater - very nice. Ovation's performers seemed genuinely talented too. The sound system was overly loud to the point of distortion and isolated feedback. We regretfully walked out.

Superman was the class of the line up (of course). 7/10. The first half was great, loved the setting and the unique layout. Once we hit the break run it meandered pointlessly. I rank it 3rd among floorless coasters behind Kraken and Medussa, but above Bizzaro and Scream.

Truthfully, the park didn't need better ops. The place was fairly empty, with the waterpark drawing the best crowds.

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Re: Six Flags Fiesta Texas (SFFT) Discussion Thread

Postby Jakizle » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:32 pm

PAL wrote:Visited the park on Weds, a first time. Beautiful, much nicer than the typical Six Flags park. Operations though were typically poor. Rattler, the mine train and Goliath each ran one train. I timed 3 Rattler cycles: 5:35, 6:40, 7:25! Weak.

I have a new worst woody. Rattler makes Mean Streak a walk in the park. Awful!

We checked out the remodeled theater - very nice. Ovation's performers seemed genuinely talented too. The sound system was overly loud to the point of distortion and isolated feedback. We regretfully walked out.

Superman was the class of the line up (of course). 7/10. The first half was great, loved the setting and the unique layout. Once we hit the break run it meandered pointlessly. I rank it 3rd among floorless coasters behind Kraken and Medussa, but above Bizzaro and Scream.

Truthfully, the park didn't need better ops. The place was fairly empty, with the waterpark drawing the best crowds.


The operations are like that even during busy time though. Rattler's line was on the 2nd ramp and took an HOUR on Tuesday...it really is unacceptable for a "major" park. Was there 2 trains on Poltergeist though? Because I haven't seen that in forever. Oh and you have the love the ONE operator checking 32 restraints on Superman...

Overall this park used to be one of my favorites and I always loved going...now for me I dread going there as ops and appearance have declined greatly. The only redeeming thing for me is the shows as they are still really good.

However, I'm curious to see what comes of this mystery blue train on Rattler...either it came from Texas Giant or it's a super rehabbed Rattler train that got painted. It looked brand new and it shocked me to see a BLUE train sitting on Rattler's transfer:

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Re: Six Flags Fiesta Texas (SFFT) Discussion Thread

Postby PAL » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:49 pm

^No, Poltergeist had only one train too - I forgot that one. Two ops in the station for every one of the rides, even Superman. No sense of urgency either. Big Spin had the best crew, followed by Poltergeist. The rest were south of lackluster.

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Re: Six Flags Fiesta Texas (SFFT) Discussion Thread

Postby jedimaster1227 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:29 pm

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Due to a fireworks ban enacted by the city of San Antonio Fire Dept., fireworks will currently not be included in showings of Lone Star Nights. Video, laser, and multimedia portions of the show will remain. All your favorite rides, shows, attractions, and our free water park (with paid admission) will still be available.
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