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Re: The Liseberg Discussion Thread

Postby Loefet » Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:26 am

Will do the first two questions, thanks for those by the way!!

The third one, the height above sea level is 146 meters, the tower itself is 116 meters and the ride height is 90 meters (4 meters more than Huracan)...

Might meet you at Liseberg then...

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Re: The Liseberg Discussion Thread

Postby Olov » Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:58 am

Found a video from the press launch today, I expect Loefet to add more later on... :)

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Re: The Liseberg Discussion Thread

Postby Loefet » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:14 am

Got home not long ago, and I have to say that Atmosfear really delivered and I can't wait to get back during the summer to get the full experience.

We arrived just in time for the press day to begin, after being checked of the list by some Liseberg personnel we were escorted by some Green Liseberg Rabbits up to the top of the mountain to the main event. First they had the normal introductions and quickly talked about the other new things for Liseberg before continuing on to Atmosfear.

Other news for this year:
The park have become smoke free, except for designated smoking areas (9 of them) and a couple of restaurants outside sections.
They are now offering "Pentathlon hosts" where a Liseberg employee goes with your group and keep tracks on scores etc. when doing a pentathlon with your friends/company/etc. among the games that Liseberg have.
Liseberg have also opened a new game section next to the entrance to Atmosfear, where they have some Terminator games and other shoot em up ones. But next to them there is a "Desperado" one (the 5D kind where you sit on horses and shoot stuff)...

They introduced the new CEO Andreas Andersen which talked a bit about Atmosfear and said that this conversion were something that Liseberg have been looking into for some time now, that parks in Sweden have invested close to 1 billion SEK (112 million EUR, 100 million GBP, 163 millions USD) on new rides which is a record. He also said that he got the great privilege as the new CE to be the first rider on Atmosfear and as he put it "to see if it was safe to let anyone else on it" :)

I also chatted a bit with the attraction manager at Liseberg and the one that have put together the whole concept behind Atmosfear about the questions that have surfaced here on the forums before this press day and other things.

The Questions:
Why doesn't it spin?
Liseberg didn't see any big difference in spinning the car or not when they test rode Scream before the conversion, they even think that it could be an advantage not to spin the car as other do. Why would that be? Less things to brake down, each sides gives slightly different experiences, make riders go several times just to experience the different views, etc...

Why does it stop so early (as seen in test videos)?
It do stop a bit early (in my view) but that could change as they open up for business and the temperature goes up this summer. The main reasons why it stopped so early in those videos are: it's brand new (needs some time to brake in), cold days, low/no load in the car, and they only ran it once or twice that day. There was a big difference between the first ride today and the ones later after it have been running with full load a few times since the mangetic brakes fades because of the build-up of heat which will make the stopping distance longer. So going on a warm day and riding it will make a big difference. Also they might modify it for next year to make it stop even later if there is room, but to test that they have to have it running on hot days with passengers to see if it's possible...

Will Höjdskräcken (S&S Turbo Drop) stay?
They see that Höjdskräcken is something to train yourself on before going big on Atmosfear, so yes it will stay.

My verdict:
It's just as good as any Intamin drop tower, I didn't on the other hand experience the full effects in the queue which are said to be synced with the start/drop of the ride. But it's still a great ride and a perfect fit for Liseberg...

Before the pictures I would like to end this report with a great thank you from us to Liseberg for letting us come and enjoy this event!!!

Pictures:
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Yay, for Atmosfear
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Green rabbits
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The reason why we are here
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So everyone just follow those green rabbits!!
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New LED displays
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Up to the tower
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Press manager
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Atmosfear in the background
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CEO Andreas Andersen
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Ride entrance
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Mmmmm, fresh Intamin tower :)
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It really begs to be ridden
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Cool reflective windows between the queue and the ride area
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Lights that will flash when the ride starts
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More effects
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Catch car
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Mechanisms that makes the ride drop
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Brake fins and ringy dingy ding-a-ling dings to stabilize the cables
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Since I had a camera Duct-taped to my hand I couldn't go on the first ride
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But instead I got a cool shot of the bump stops
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And also standing under the ride while operating
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Nearing the top
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It could be an idea to move away now
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Tallest drop ride in Europe, gallest Gyro drop world wide, 3:rd tallest drop tower world wide...
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Good view of Balder
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And the other Balder, but with a Ra first
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Kanonen
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And Lisebergbanan <3
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Almost every attractions in one shot
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Ride entrance
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You must be this height to ride
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Theme stuff
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More
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Down the stairs
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Space for about 600 persons (1 hour wait)
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One of many things that will be synced to the ride
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Other cool stuff
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More queue
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Behind the Atmosfear entrance they have hidden Desperados <3
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I pretty much pawened everyone
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And that's it, see you later for a full report of Liseberg!!!

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Re: The Liseberg Discussion Thread

Postby MayTheGForceBeWithYou » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:25 am

WOW, that looks awesome! Thanks Loefet!
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Re: The Liseberg Discussion Thread

Postby larrygator » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:33 am

I'm excited that they added Desperados. What language is this version?
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Re: The Liseberg Discussion Thread

Postby Gerstlauer1 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:46 am

larrygator wrote:I'm excited that they added Desperados. What language is this version?

What's with these Desperados... they don't look too impressive.. Bonbonland is getting one this year.

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Re: The Liseberg Discussion Thread

Postby jedimaster1227 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:46 am

^They are actually quite fun if you ever get the chance to try one.
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Re: The Liseberg Discussion Thread

Postby Gerstlauer1 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:48 am

^ I have one in my homepark.. Not fun IMO.

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Re: The Liseberg Discussion Thread

Postby cfc » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:49 am

I think Desperadoes is a lot of fun. It's essentially a "shooting motion simulator" where you and your group are new deputies chasing a band of ruthless outlaws (and shooting the crap out of them, of course).
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Re: The Liseberg Discussion Thread

Postby Loefet » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:56 pm

larrygator wrote:I'm excited that they added Desperados. What language is this version?

English, which isn't a problem here in Sweden, my brother didn't really notice it until we talked about it and I said that it was in English. I'm really happy that they used the English version since the translations usually sounds like crap...
It's a really small one though, only 16 or so seats...

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