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Postby Erik_73 » Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:01 am

TPDave wrote:Due to various boring laws of induction, the braking force excerted on the train will be proportional to the speed of the train as it enters the brakes, this can be assumed as a percentage drop in speed (where the percentage is determined by the distance between the magnets). Basically the brakes dont slow you down by a set speed, but you're right in that if you go in faster, you come out faster :D


There are more variables with magnetic brakes such as:
- The air gap between the aluminum fin and the magnets. On coasters that use the same brake fin for slowing and stopping (block control) they loose brake force when the brake fin is wearing.
- The temperature because the magnetic braking energy is transformed into heat. The lower the outside temperature, the more brake force is generated.

Another interesting fact on magnetic brakes is that they can not stop a train completely to standstill. For multi train operating rides, a safe block control is only possible with mechanical brakes.

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Postby ginzo » Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:11 am

Erik_73 wrote:The temperature because the magnetic braking energy is transformed into heat. The lower the outside temperature, the more brake force is generated.


Erik, could this have been part of why people thought the trims on EGF seemed more forceful last year? It was apparently a colder day than this year. I thought the trims seemed to have very little effect on the speed of the train this year.
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Postby Erik_73 » Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:17 am

ginzo wrote:
Erik_73 wrote:The temperature because the magnetic braking energy is transformed into heat. The lower the outside temperature, the more brake force is generated.


Erik, could this have been part of why people thought the trims on EGF seemed more forceful last year? It was apparently a colder day than this year. I thought the trims seemed to have very little effect on the speed of the train this year.


Yes, the outside temperature has a very very big influence. While the temperature has also negative influence on the coaster speed while the internal bearing friction on the roadwheels increase at lower temperatures. So the train is slower, and the brakes generate more brake force...

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Postby TPDave » Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:37 am

Very interesting Erik, you're clearly meant for better things than Vekoma ;)

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Postby larrygator » Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:41 am

Der Der Dongt wrote:I don´t know, but since you all say the coaster was awesome during your trip.


Many people on the trip felt this way but not EVERYBODY.
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Postby robbalvey » Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:59 am

ihani wrote:EGF looks so fun! I like the color scheme of it.

But why is it called Holiday Park? I see nothing relating to holidays. :?r

SharkTums wrote:Holiday as in 'Vacation'.

Yeah, in Europe, going on "vaction" is called "going on holiday" so that's where the "Holiday" in name "Holiday Park" comes from.

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Postby Ryancrash » Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:05 pm

Erik_73 wrote:
ginzo wrote:
Erik_73 wrote:The temperature because the magnetic braking energy is transformed into heat. The lower the outside temperature, the more brake force is generated.


Erik, could this have been part of why people thought the trims on EGF seemed more forceful last year? It was apparently a colder day than this year. I thought the trims seemed to have very little effect on the speed of the train this year.


Yes, the outside temperature has a very very big influence. While the temperature has also negative influence on the coaster speed while the internal bearing friction on the roadwheels increase at lower temperatures. So the train is slower, and the brakes generate more brake force...


Interesting. I rode GeForce in 2007, not with TPR, but on my own visit. The general TPR consensus was that GeForce was not up to its usual standards in 2007. I went to Holiday Park on Aug 1, 2007 (which I believe was shortly before or after the TPR visit) - the day I visited was warm and sunny (once again, I was wishing for sunglasses on the loading platform and lifthill). On Aug 1, 2007 GeForce was running GREAT - it instantly became my number one favorite. Personally, I didn't see too much difference between the way GeForce was running on my 2007 visit and the way it ran for us this year.

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Postby robbalvey » Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:31 pm

Day 10 - Europa Park
Home to Theme Park Review's "Best Theme Park in Europe!"
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Europa Park is by far Elissa and my favorite park in Europe! It's got everything...awesome coasters, cool dark rides, and most importantly...RODENTS!
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The landscaping here is better than any other park in Europe. (Yes, even Disney IMO!)
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Everywhere you look there is sexy architecture that makes grown men drool.
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TPR's tour of Europa Park would start with a little bit of ERT on Eurosat...with the LIGHTS ON!!!
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Is everybody in? Your Eurosat ceremony is about to begin.
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Even with the lights on this ride is completely INSANE!!! (Watch out for that sudden jolt!)
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Europa Park has a crazy selection of coasters, and yes, the bobsled has drops...that's a good thing!
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Big Mike is ready for his Exclusive "Ride" time! ;)
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Ok, let's go check out some dark rides...
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Yup, it's Pirates!
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BOOBS!!!
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Here is Silver Star. While not as awesome as GeForce, still a lot of fun! (Note the new scream shield!)
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You guys like waking up in the morning to roller coasters?
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MORE FLAGS! MORE FUN!!!
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"I am communicating with my home planet!"
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Big Mike is enthusaistic...Joe is....confused?
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CAR! FAAAAAAST!
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It's beautiful! Just like a postcard!
(Thanks Hanno!)
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"I've always wanted to be a construction worker, and now thanks to Europa Park, I can live out those childhood memories..."
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Girls on Trampolines!!!
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"I'm gesang in the regen!!!"
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"Do you get wet on this ride?"
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NO!! PIERS!!! STOP SQUEEZING!!!
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Our stay at Hotel Coloseo was beyond AMAZING!
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The hotel is beautiful...
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The food was amazing...
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Big Mike was relaxing doing his Road Show update! Everyone loved the hotel....
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...except for the "emo group?"
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Um...what exactly is going on here?!?!?
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Spongebob looks PISSED! Dude, I'd be pissed off too is some old guy was grabbing at my crotch!
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CREPE....GOOOOOOD!
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"I'm CRAAAAZY plate of hot cheese...gimme some Elissa!"
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"Hey Elissa...don't you want a little bit of my raclette?"
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Boogey! Boogey! Boogey!
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Maybe we can use all these tickets to build a fort!
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CHRIS! FOOOOOOOD!
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We ended our visit to Europa on one of the most awesome...most unique roller coasters in the world...EuroMir.
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We got to walk up the towers for some hot TPR photo taking action!
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"Hey down there! You all ready to ride?"
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Oh dear...is the world ready for TPR on EuroMir???
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The only way to describe Euro Mir like "one part russian disco, one part roller coaster, one part lazy suzan, and one part Ikea showroom!"
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Here comes the party train!
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Little do they know I'm going to smack them in the head with the camera as they come by!
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Here is the "Ikea showroom" part of the ride!
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So THAT is what's inside of those towers...it's AIR! "This is PURE AIR! Do you have any idea what the street value of this tower is?"
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Everyone in the group loved Euro Mir! I think it was most people's favorite coaster of the park!
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Thank you Europa Park for an AWESOME visit!

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Postby ginzo » Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:53 pm

Hanging out in that fountain area of Hotel Colosseo was a trip highlight for me. You could eat ice cream or drink alcohol and watch the awesome fountain show. Heck, you were allowed to play in the fountain if you were willing to risk getting totally blasted with water.

The hotel in general was beautiful, nicer than most Disney hotels. And they gave us a fruit bowl and sparkling water in the rooms when we got there!
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Postby Hand 0f Time » Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:04 pm

EuroMir really does look like an awesome ride. :D

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