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Re: Lakemont park closed for the summer!

Postby coasterbill » Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:43 am

Yeah, La Ronde is awful for a corporate park but I'd much rather spend a few hours there than at a park like Lakemont or Conneaut. Unlike Conneaut, Lakemont has a few fun rides (the wood coasters and the Skydiver) but it's a complete, depressed disaster of a park.

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Re: Lakemont park closed for the summer!

Postby viking86 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:46 am

We're already on page 3 and no one has suggested RMC Leap the Dips?? I'm shocked...

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Re: Lakemont park closed for the summer!

Postby JT325 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:52 am

I love Lakemont. Those 2 classic coasters are something so different from what we get most of the time. Sure, they need a little work. We have so few classic coasters left (Kennywood being the best example of top-maintained classic rides). I hope the park pulls it together, it's a gem. Same goes for Conneaut. It needs plenty of work, but I can have more fun on those coasters than handfulls of B&M, RMC and Intamin rides (which I also love!)

Of course, if you're brought up with sterile and relatively plain B&M and corporate (CF) parks, I understand not seeing the value.

I've been a coaster/park enthusiast since I was a little kid. The older I get the more important these little parks and classic, unique rides mean to me. They do need a little clean up though!
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Re: Lakemont park closed for the summer!

Postby Rai Fox » Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:03 am

Lakemont is by far the worst park I've seen, just so worn out and run down. Most of the rides felt like deathtraps; everything there other than leap the dips felt like it was going to fall apart under me, just made of rust and rot. A friend and I survived a couple of the rides then both agreed it wasn't worth risking our lives on any more. I really can't be too upset that they're being removed. I do hope the rarer ones go somewhere that will refurbish and take care of them, though. Knoebels could probably use a Skydiver, right?

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Re: Lakemont park closed for the summer!

Postby coasterbill » Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:04 am

JT325 wrote:Of course, if you're brought up with sterile and relatively plain B&M and corporate (CF) parks, I understand some don't see the value.


This is a pretty condescending statement. As everyone knows, my favorite park anywhere, ever is Knoebels. I rank it ahead of the domestic Universal and Disney parks and major corporate thrill parks like Cedar Point. I love it's charm, I love the classic rides, I love the atmosphere, I love everything about it. There are plenty of classic parks that I absolutely love, but I also know a sh*thole when I see it and Lakemont and Conneaut are depressed sh*tholes. There are collapsing and abandoned buildings everywhere, the rides appear to be barely functional, there are empty ride pads everywhere and the parks have no charm or atmosphere to speak of.

There are plenty of valid reasons to think that these 2 parks are complete trash. I love classic parks and I absolutely see their value compared to corporate parks but just because a park is old doesn't mean it's good and not liking select classic parks doesn't mean that you're somehow "missing the value". Some parks don't have value, some parks just suck. In my opinion (aside from Leap the Dips) this is one of those parks. If someone bought Leap the Dips and they leveled everything else for condos I assure you that I wouldn't care at all.

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Re: Lakemont park closed for the summer!

Postby Rai Fox » Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:10 am

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JT325 wrote:Of course, if you're brought up with sterile and relatively plain B&M and corporate (CF) parks, I understand some don't see the value.


This is a pretty condescending statement. As everyone knows, my favorite park anywhere, ever is Knoebels. I rank it ahead of the domestic Universal and Disney parks and major corporate thrill parks like Cedar Point. I love it's charm, I love the classic rides, I love the atmosphere, I love everything about it. There are plenty of classic parks that I absolutely love, but I also know a sh*thole when I see it and Lakemont and Conneaut are depressed sh*tholes. There are collapsing and abandoned buildings everywhere, the rides appear to be barely functional, there are empty ride pads everywhere and the parks have no charm or atmosphere to speak of.

There are plenty of valid reasons to think that these 2 parks are complete trash. I love classic parks and I absolutely see their value compared to corporate parks but just because a park is old doesn't mean it's good and not liking select classic parks doesn't mean that you're somehow "missing the value". Some parks don't have value, some parks just suck. In my opinion (aside from Leap the Dips) this is one of those parks. If someone bought Leap the Dips and they leveled everything else for condos I assure you that I wouldn't care at all.


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Re: Lakemont park closed for the summer!

Postby JT325 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:10 am

^^I'm sorry if it came across as condescending, perhaps my wording was off. It wasn't meant to be rude. I'm sorry.

It's a theme I've noticed over the past few years... kinda like when Wildcat got taken out of CP, some younger CF fanboys were like "it's a carnival ride anyway," and don't see the value.

I have so many coaster buddies that have grown up on computer generated B&M rides (which I love as well), but when they get on the Mind Bender in Georgia and we almost end up in the same seat on a curve, they say there is something wrong with the ride. I also love GCI coasters, but they give a completely different, and highly-calculated ride experience. A friend said the designers of HW's Legend "forgot the bank the curves!" Well, that's what makes the ride so good! What has taken the fun out is those seat dividers.

We have so few classic coasters, where you actually get "fun movement." More than being pressed up against a super-tight lap bar, or a little pressure on the side of a bucket seat. Those are great too, but that old stuff is so special.

I will agree, the parks some are in are dumpy, but I hold those rides at such a high value, I'm able to see through most of that.
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Re: Lakemont park closed for the summer!

Postby coasterbill » Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:19 am

Nah, it's fine.

I'll say this by the way, when this park inevitably goes under (sorry I can't be that optimistic about Lakemont, lol) I really would like to see Skyliner stay where it is. Not only is it a perfectly good coaster (it's not amazing, but it's fun) but it also makes for an awesome backdrop for the baseball stadium. The entrance and exit paths could easily be accessed from the stadium concourse if they expanded it a little, I almost wonder if the Curve could buy the thing (and the land) and operate it during games. Plenty of minor league stadiums have upcharge Carousels, Slides, Bounce Houses and Ferris Wheels down the lines... how cool would it be if one of them had a coaster? I'd imagine such limited operation would really cut down on maintenance also.

I have no idea if this would make financial sense (I'll be honest, I'm leaning towards "no"), but it would be incredibly cool. The team know it adds to the appeal of the ballpark, they use Skyliner in almost all of their promotional images and marketing materials.
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Re: Lakemont park closed for the summer!

Postby Rai Fox » Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:22 am

I absolutely agree about preserving classic rides, but Lakemont isn't preserving them at all, it's letting them rust and fall apart. They just happen to let people take their lives into their own hands and ride them during the process. If they were maintaining them like Knoebels, or Kennywood, if there was even any hope of saving the place I'd be there as often as I could supporting it. I mean, I still have a soft spot for Rye Playland, so clearly I'm willing to give a struggling park a chance... Lakemont is beyond saving though and their rides will be too if someone else doesn't take them and start taking care of them.

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Re: Lakemont park closed for the summer!

Postby JT325 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:34 am

^I always stay on the optimistic side of things. When SFMM finally went back to lap-bar trains for Revolution (albeit with seat belts and bucket-y seats, still a HUGE improvement), the optimistic super-coaster-geek in me won a little victory. Everyone in the industry, and everyone else said that would never EVER happen.

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Things happen. Although not running classic trains, this thing is beautiful AND fun. How long was it condemned?
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