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Re: Nagashima Spa Land Discussion Thread

Postby Nrthwnd » Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:51 pm

Invertalon wrote:
Nrthwnd wrote:So, where did all those helixes go? ;)

Lookin' good to me. Blue track on the white structure looks nice.


You know, it would have been cool if they kept one of them... Even if they made it all RMC-funky in some way.


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Re: Nagashima Spa Land Discussion Thread

Postby AustinR » Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:46 am


Based on the model of the ride.

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Re: Nagashima Spa Land Discussion Thread

Postby A.J. » Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:12 pm

AustinR wrote:Based on the model of the ride.

Which is funny, considering the image of the coaster posted with the grassy background looks like it was produced with NoLimits. :lmao:
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Re: Nagashima Spa Land Discussion Thread

Postby Projektion » Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:05 pm

Nagashima Resorts website has been updated with the stats of the ride
http://www.nagashimaresort.jp/hanamizuki/info/470113104653.html

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Name - Hybrid Coaster Hakugei (HAKUGEI)
Opening date - March 2019(Pending)
Speed - 107 km/h / 66.5 mph
Height - 55 m / 180.5 ft
Length - 1530 m / 5020 ft
Max vertical angle - 80°
Ride Time - 160 seconds
Max G Force - 4.0 G
Capacity - 24 riders (6 cars of 4 guests)
Cost - 2.8 Billion Yen / ~$24.5 mil
Design and Manufacture:
- Rocky Mountain Construction, Inc. 
- S&S Worldwide, Inc. (USA)
- Sansei Technologies, Inc.
Height Requirement - 130cm / 51 inches (pending)


Not sure if this is actually old news, but I only just noticed this.
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Re: Nagashima Spa Land Discussion Thread

Postby A.J. » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:04 pm

It's curious that S&S and Sansei are listed as well. I wonder why?
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Re: Nagashima Spa Land Discussion Thread

Postby gerstlaueringvar » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:54 pm

Maybe some re-engineering of the train to follow the Japanese code?

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Re: Nagashima Spa Land Discussion Thread

Postby chickenbowl » Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:15 pm

A.J. wrote:It's curious that S&S and Sansei are listed as well. I wonder why?


Perhaps S&S Sansei acted as the broker for their sale in the Japanese market (as Vekoma acts for RMC in the European market)?
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Re: Nagashima Spa Land Discussion Thread

Postby Projektion » Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:38 pm

Sansei acquired Vekoma, didn't they?
It could just be their involved in Hakugei because of that.
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Re: Nagashima Spa Land Discussion Thread

Postby A.J. » Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:58 pm

gerstlaueringvar wrote:Maybe some re-engineering of the train to follow the Japanese code?

I was thinking about something along those lines, considering that the height restriction is given as 130 cm versus, as an example, Wildfire's 120 cm.
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Re: Nagashima Spa Land Discussion Thread

Postby JG-77 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:17 pm

S&S has considerable experience working in Japan and has also worked directly with Nagashima Spa Land for Arashi if not more. Sansei if I remember correctly is based in Japan, and I'm pretty sure S&S and Sansei have merged to some extent, although I'm not 100% sure exactly how. Also, S&S has worked with RMC to make the track for its freespins. Based on these facts (or at least what I believe are facts, I could be wrong on some details) I personally think that S&S and Sansei are involved in the construction because they have knowledge on what one would need to do to build something in Japan (such as building codes, legal documentation, etc.) and because RMC is already familiar with S&S (especially considering that Alan Shilke has worked with both companies). Of course, I could be completely off, but it's an idea.
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