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Postby dougstanton » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:35 pm

Being two GAdv fanboys I can't go by that too much, but personally I wouldn't enjoy being pinned to my seat by the staple nazis if there is such insane air on this thing. I will be riding it for myself in a couple weeks, but I don't see how it is possible to beat Voyage.

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Postby HCOSurfer90 » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:37 pm

Isnt Voyage more of floater air, meanwhile El Toro is more ejector?

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Postby Rider117 » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:37 pm

It wasn't the two GADV fanboys who said Toro was better either...

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Postby Swimace » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:38 pm

I haven't ridden wither one and probably won't get to ride either one for some time, but if I had to chose I'd say El Torro looks like the best wooden coaster of the year.

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Postby darklight_tr » Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:06 am

I'm jealous of those who have already ridden El Toro. I won't be able to ride until 2008! :cry:

Let's hope that SFGAdv can maintain this ride, unlike another wooden coaster in the park which shall remain nameless.

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Postby twisterbret » Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:41 am

14 rides on El Toro and these are my thoughts
The trains lack the T-bar and have more of a staple looking type setup. This is a tight fit for some larger people. It’s not that the bar won’t go down but the all clear is not set till the bar clicks to a certain point. Everyone got to ride but larger people would need some extra help getting stapled in and you do get stapled! Being stabled is not a problem. You feel every ounce of negative g and it’s extreme!! If the bar wasn’t resting on your legs I think you would be in a lot of pain hitting the bar so hard with your legs.
I have not ridden Balder but I have ridden Colossos at Heide-Park Soltau, which is a close cousin of El Toro. El Toro seems to have more extreme and sustained negative g’s on the outward run and the turn around is taken at a much high rate of speed. From the ground you can hear the upstop wheels screaming for mercy at the tops of the large outward hills. This is about the only sound you will hear. After the turnaround there is a pretty good drop in the back and then there a moment of rest with some straight track. I consider this the only weak part if the design. After the straight, you bank into a smooth fast left hander which turns into the hill that crosses Roller Thunder. This crossover hill produces amazing airtime in the back but it’s X3 towards the front. This hill also twists left on the way down which makes for some laterals. At the bottom of the crossover drop is the twister section. I was amazing how well these Intamin trains articulate and track thru this area. It’s fast and powerful and not as controlled as I would have though, which is great!! The last hill or so doesn’t do much, but at this point you are ready for a breather.
The first drop on El Toro is one of if not greatest first drop on any coaster, Expedition G-force included. EG has a nice slow roll-over which is lets you soak in the terror and gives that evil kickoff in the back. El Toro’s lift is so fast it almost seems like a shuttle coaster. The lift doesn’t slow down at the top. In the back of the very long train there are actually some laterals on the lift hill turn around (not Twister Craziness) While the first drop in the front seat is fun, you are going so fast you don’t really get to hang and check out the sites, but this is what makes the back so amazing down the first drop. The drop doesn’t have the large radius MF has and it’s got more speed so the drop is more of a Coney Island Cyclone (in the back) feel to it but taken to another level. You get that out of your seat feeling at the start of the drop but then the ride just presses you extremely hard at against the bar. It doesn’t slam you it more or less feels like it hit the Nitrous button after already being out of your seat. There isn’t a bad seat on the ride. There is air in every seat. I almost forgot to mention the great head choppers this ride has!
The bad news is the second train won’t be ready for a while so prepare to wait.
I’ve been waiting since the year the Beast open at KI for Great Adventure to get a wood coaster you could really brag about. El Toro is really something to brag about! Congrats to GA!! O Lay!

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Postby verticalzero » Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:58 am

I rode "Colossos at Heide-Park Soltau" last year and I found it to be very smooth until you get to the downward helix which starts to get rough then it goes smooth again for the 3 rabbit hops back to the station.

This coaster produces the most amount of Airtime on the outward hills I have ever had on any coaster, again you can hear the "upstop" wheels when going over the large hills.

I'll have to save for about 6 months before I can afford the flight/hotel and transfer costs to ride "El Toro" as I live in the UK.

It does look a very nice design/layout and i'm sure everyone who rides it, loves it. I wish I lived nearer to the park.
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Postby GAcoaster » Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:45 am

Rider117 wrote:It wasn't the two GADV fanboys who said Toro was better either...


Exactly! We heard it from other ACE people who are generally "if it's not CP or Holday World or Knoebel's, it sucks" people, not SF fans at all.

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Postby okinawaboy11 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:43 am

darklight_tr wrote:I'm jealous of those who have already ridden El Toro. I won't be able to ride until 2008! :cry:

Let's hope that SFGAdv can maintain this ride, unlike another wooden coaster in the park which shall remain nameless.

Well, at least I got to ride The Voyage, which is my new #1 wood coaster!


It's a Pre-Fab, it should be REALLY easy to maintain it. (Except the Cable Lift). And even if they don't maintain it, it's not going to get rough any time soon.

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Postby DragonKhan » Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:52 am

I haven't ridden either, but knowing the Intamin pre-fab, Voyage and El Toro just CAN'T be compared. Not saying that El Toro is bad (looks great!), but comparing them is like comparing Woodies and Stell Coasters.
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