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Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:45 pm

im not saying its steel.....its just that it looks so differnt than a normal woody. I mean it like a steel coater (IMO) but then again, its wood. I dont know, its like in the middle IMO.

Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:47 pm

At the end of the day, does it really matter?

Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:08 pm

Awesome pics there dude, this all seems eerily similer to this time last year.

OMG is that the track? I knew that these were plug'n'play woodies but I've never actually seen how the construction process goes. I would love to get a tour of the factory that makes the track. Someone is definately wearing the over-engineering pants in Switzerland.

Looking forward to another off season of GAdv pics from across that lake again.


Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:53 pm

CoastinKatie wrote:Awesome! I can't wait for the announcement. Record Breaker? That'll be interesting!

It will probably be some crappy record such as "First theme park to build a wooden and steel coaster from the same manufacturer in consecutive years"

Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:02 am

The way I see it, this thing will break one of PKI's record's either way, since we hold longest (Beast) and tallest (Son of Bitch) right now. Personnaly, I couldn't care less if they both get broken :D Also, I may/may not be able to visit SFGA next year. My steel drum band in school is planning our 2nd annual roadtrip, and one of this routes includes a trip to DP and SFGA. I dont know what the other routes offer otherwise, but I'm rooting for that one^^.

Jared"going to SFGA and DP in early June?"Becker

Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:00 pm

Well right now the rumored height is 181 and length is rumored to be way shorter than SOB. But then again the same thing happened with KK, it turned out to be much more than what had been leaked.

Six Flags Great Adventure Announces El Toro!

Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:45 am



JACKSON, N.J., September 28, 2005 - In 2006, thrill seekers at the World's largest regional theme park will challenge El Toro, an enormous, new wooden roller coaster under construction at Six Flags Great Adventure. The thrill ride, which incorporates the most daring features of the world's best wooden roller coasters combined with the smooth speed of a steel coaster, will be the star of a vibrant, newly-themed area of the park, Plaza del Carnaval. Just around the corner, families with young children will explore exciting, pint-sized adventures in the all-new Bugs Bunny™ National Park kids' area, featuring new rides and attractions designed just for them. Both new areas, including monstrous El Toro, are set to open next season.

"Classic design meets state-of-the-art thrills with our spectacular, new wooden roller coaster," said Rick McCurley, the park's vice president and general manager. "As part of our multi-year expansion to a family destination, this massive coaster adventure will anchor a colorful, newly-themed area evoking the lively energy of Spanish-speaking regions of the world."

El Toro's unique design, inspired by the agility and strength of the brave Matadors, features a hybrid design including a classic "out and back" track with four fast-charging drops, multiple highly-banked turns and a beastly "twister" finale. El Toro will also deliver nine "airtime" opportunities, giving riders the highly-sought thrill ride sensation of weightlessness.

At 181 feet tall, reaching 70 mph, El Toro will rank among the tallest and fastest wooden roller coasters in the world. Its 4,400 feet of mountainous track includes records for second tallest, fastest and longest drop of all wooden coasters in America and features the world's steepest drop on a wooden roller coaster, 76 white-knuckled degrees.

El Toro will anchor the colorful and lively Plaza del Carnaval section along a scenic waterway. This newly-themed area will feature La Cocina restaurant offering authentic Mexican fare, plus an open-air, marketplace-style retail shop and a new, themed family ride. Plaza del Carnaval will also include one of the world's rare, classic dual-track wooden roller coasters, Rolling Thunder, introduced in 1979.

Just around the corner, parents and their young children will explore Bugs Bunny National Park, an all-new, wilderness-themed children's area with tons of fun for little ones. Located on Six Flags Great Adventure's picturesque Great Lake, this new kids' area, featuring Bugs Bunny and his Looney Tunes pals, will join Looney Tunes Seaport and Balin's Jungleland as the park's third section devoted to the youngest thrill seekers. Families will enjoy the great outdoors with new rides, an interactive water play feature, plus a lakeside theater with a high-spirited show for kids and a snack bar with lots of sweet treats.

"Moms and dads told us their kids love the new Balin's Jungleland area this season, and they want more," McCurley said. "We listened, and with nearly 25 rides specially-designed for kids 54 inches and under, dozens of rides for tweens and teens, and the world's ultimate coaster collection, Six Flags Great Adventure will be the perfect way to enjoy playtime together in 2006."

The new Bugs Bunny National Park, and Plaza del Carnaval featuring El Toro, are slated for a spring 2006 opening. Guests can take a virtual ride on El Toro and receive up-to-the-minute news throughout the park's winter construction project on www.sixflags.com.

Here are some stats for you all to chew over:

Record and claims:
Ranks as the second tallest and fastest wooden coaster in the U.S. with the second longest drop. El Toro will be the third tallest and fastest in the world. This coaster breaks the world record for steepest wooden coaster drop at 76 degrees.

Maximum Speed: 70 mph

Lift height: 181 feet

First drop angle: 76 degrees

First drop length: 176 feet

Ride time: 1 minute, 42 seconds

Load/Unload time: 1 minute, 10 seconds

Length of Track: 4,400 feet

No. of trains: 2

Cars per train: 6

Passengers per train: 36

Hill heights:
Second hill: 112 feet
Third hill: 100 feet
Fourth hill: 82 feet

Airtime hills: 7

Airtime S turns: 2

Ride Capacity: 1,500 per hour

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Wow! Kind of looks like a cross between Colossos and Balder!
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Start booking your trip to Six Flags Great Adventure!
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Wow! Could this be the ride of the year for 2006???
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:30 am

All I can say is WOW!!! The number that has me most excited is the 76 degree angle on the first drop. :shock: Also, the banked turns look sweet. Overall, I am very happy with the stats. I'm glad they didn't go with the 240 feet and 84 mph numbers. With that said, I guess I'll be visiting Great Adventure next spring. :wink:

Edit: Taking a closer look at the layout, it reminds me of Superman-ROS(SFNE) a little.
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:08 am

OMG i am so excited! I'll be there opening day riding EL toro. It looks like it has alot of airtime. Also the steepest drop.

OHHHH the prefrabicated delight!

Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:23 am

Hooray, this is totally what I was hoping it would be and more. Its location looks great right on the lake, and you just can't get much better than a 76 degree drop. The only "voyage" I'm interested in now is the voyage down the PA turnpike to the NJ Turnpike to exit 7A!

As for "saving Astroworld and SFNO" this has NOTHING to do with that. Six Flags wants to sell Astroworld because of all the pressure from neighboring sportscenters and they don't have their own parking lot. The park hasn't gotten a major coaster since 1999 and its pretty landlocked. If the park wants to sell it, that's their choice as its their property. If you want to complain about anyone, complain that Cedar Faire isn't buying it up. They must have money, they bought Patriot for WOF.

Its kinda hard to "save" SFNO when its still underwater and people in New Orleans have homes to rebuild before they decide to ride rollie coasters. Besides, contracts were signed for this new woodie long before SFNO went under and Astroworld went up for sale.
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