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Re: Busch Gardens Tampa Bay (BGT BGA Discussion Thread)

Postby markysharky17 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:30 pm

This is magnificent. I'm hoping its not like match towers and breaks 2/3 of the way up the tower. What if they give you a choice of having some seats stay normal and some 90*. I'm almost certain that most of the GP will see this and go 'HELL NO!' But that won't stop me from rideing!
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Re: Busch Gardens Tampa Bay (BGT BGA Discussion Thread)

Postby TheDarkMaxim » Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:56 pm

So from my quick timing.

Assuming breaking begins at the yellow section, drop time is ~3 seconds.

V=at or v=(9.81m/s/s)(3 seconds) gives you a speed of 29.43 m/s or 65.83mph.

Then a conservative estimate would be about 60mph when you hit the brakes.

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Postby Comeagain? » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:27 pm

TheDarkMaxim wrote:So from my quick timing.

Assuming breaking begins at the yellow section, drop time is ~3 seconds.

V=at or v=(9.81m/s/s)(3 seconds) gives you a speed of 29.43 m/s or 65.83mph.

Then a conservative estimate would be about 60mph when you hit the brakes.


Compared to an ARM/Larson tower which reaches 47mph or Intamin's Giant Drop at almost 80pmh (according to their site).

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Re: Busch Gardens Tampa Bay (BGT BGA Discussion Thread)

Postby TheDarkMaxim » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:11 pm

It's all just a function of height. The 80+ mph Intamin free falls are all in the ~400ft range. This is only a 310'ft drop. That being said it likely will have a higher drag coefficient doe to ride carriage design associated with this type. When KD's has. A 272 ft drop and hits 72mph.

And I was correct in my math, the published top speed of FF is 60mph.

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Re: Busch Gardens Tampa Bay (BGT BGA Discussion Thread)

Postby rcjp » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:19 pm

^Well the car seems pretty heavy, and the heavier it is the less significant the drag will be, which means acceleration closer to the 9.8 m/s^2
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Re: Busch Gardens Tampa Bay (BGT BGA Discussion Thread)

Postby coasterfreak101 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:36 pm

It looks really clear to me that it stops accelerating well above the yellow portion. It doesn't necessarily slow down, but it isn't speeding up, either. I would assume that's where we'll see it flip back to horizontal, in time for the full brakes to start when the yellow portion is hit.
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Re: Busch Gardens Tampa Bay (BGT BGA Discussion Thread)

Postby PeoplemoverMatt » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:41 pm

markysharky17 wrote:I'm almost certain that most of the GP will see this and go 'HELL NO!'


I'm counting on that! Less people for me to wait behind! :lmao:
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Re: Busch Gardens Tampa Bay (BGT BGA Discussion Thread)

Postby rcjp » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:22 am

coasterfreak101 wrote:It looks really clear to me that it stops accelerating well above the yellow portion. It doesn't necessarily slow down, but it isn't speeding up, either. I would assume that's where we'll see it flip back to horizontal, in time for the full brakes to start when the yellow portion is hit.

Well what matters here is, like you said, where it stops accelerating because that's where the freefall feeling ends (or when the acceleration goes well below 9.8). It looks like it will deliver a nice punch and it will be for sure intimidating facing down, but it just doesn't seem like it will be actual freefall for a long time. I guess we'll just have to wait for someone to ride it.
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Re: Busch Gardens Tampa Bay (BGT BGA Discussion Thread)

Postby A.J. » Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:06 am

coasterfreak101 wrote:It looks really clear to me that it stops accelerating well above the yellow portion. It doesn't necessarily slow down, but it isn't speeding up, either. I would assume that's where we'll see it flip back to horizontal, in time for the full brakes to start when the yellow portion is hit.

The acceleration due to gravity means absolutely diddly squat when the drop is controlled, as Falcon's Fury appears to be.
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Re: Busch Gardens Tampa Bay (BGT BGA Discussion Thread)

Postby coasterbill » Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:12 am

rcjp wrote:It looks like it will deliver a nice punch and it will be for sure intimidating facing down, but it just doesn't seem like it will be actual freefall for a long time. I guess we'll just have to wait for someone to ride it.


I think that even if it's not as crazy as their other towers in terms of the time you're actually dropping, I think the fact that you're facing the ground will more than make up for it (as you pointed out). Plus it's still testing so it may be operating much differently on opening day.

Comeagain? wrote:Compared to an ARM/Larson tower which reaches 47mph or Intamin's Giant Drop at almost 80pmh (according to their site).


ARM/Larson towers defy the laws of physics. ;)

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