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Re: Busch Gardens Tampa Bay (BGT, BGA) Discussion Thread

Postby robbalvey » Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:58 pm

^ Yeah, I've actually sent them an email and asked them to stop spamming our forums. "technically" the way he's spamming is within our guidelines, but at the same time everything is completely at my discretion. I don't like this site. I don't like the way they are advertizing here. And I refuse to support it. I would recommend others do the same.

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Postby chadster » Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:10 pm

^ I'm glad I'm not the only one who recognizes this. I noticed other sites that I found in my search were only allowing the link to be posted. IMO if the park wanted this stuff out, they would put it out officially in some way, shape, or form. While it could be the park doing this, and I want to think they are, I have my doubts they would go through this much trouble to leak things just for the enthusiasts (I could be wrong, but doubt it). The videos are great and the BGT marketing folks are doing a remarkable job.

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Re: Busch Gardens Tampa Bay (BGT, BGA) Discussion Thread

Postby Kraken & Manta » Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:26 pm

Actually, a member of Orlando United found out that one of the design firms for the ride had all the plans for the coaster online, most were password protected yet some didn't. He got the concept art and blue prints from there. Those forums have rules against posting leaked images in the forum, so they were taken down, and this guy created the website to post those images.

Although possibly the park didn't protect the few files for a reason, they didn't show much about the ride it-self.
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Re: Busch Gardens Tampa Bay (BGT, BGA) Discussion Thread

Postby robbalvey » Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:30 pm

I'm sure when the park is ready to realize more, they will. Until then, I think the little "clues" that keep appearing are pretty awesome!

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Re: Busch Gardens Tampa Bay (BGT, BGA) Discussion Thread

Postby Ratmead » Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:40 pm

Kraken & Manta wrote:Actually, a member of Orlando United found out that one of the design firms for the ride had all the plans for the coaster online, most were password protected yet some didn't. He got the concept art and blue prints from there. Those forums have rules against posting leaked images in the forum, so they were taken down, and this guy created the website to post those images.

Although possibly the park didn't protect the few files for a reason, they didn't show much about the ride it-self.


Just to clear this up a bit. Yes, the pictures in these files were available on a contractors website. They were available for anyone to download, some where password protected zip files, some were not. I originally posted them to Orlando United, and they took them down. That night I got a message from their mods asking to explain the situation and they would go from there. Once I explained how the files were obtained, they agreed it would be okay to post them on their forum. In the mean time, another user asked if he could host the files at his blog. I said it may not be a good idea, but I didn't prohibit him from doing so, as the files are not mine either. Thats when I found out about this park secrets blog.

I do not run that website, but I can say that the files are indeed legitimate.

Back on topic though, how about the supports for the tower structure? To my knowledge there hasn't been anything done like that before. Usually you think of supports as being symmetrical for the most part, but to see the supports for this tower, it truly is one-of-a-kind.

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Re: Busch Gardens Tampa Bay (BGT, BGA) Discussion Thread

Postby jarmor » Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:42 pm

I've known parks to "leak" stuff thru anonymous, first time posters to various websites. Also I have heard from a PR person that sometimes the park wants the type of buzz marketing leaked info/pictures can generate...

This could be one of those things...then again it could be not. Im just gonna enjoy it for what it is lol...
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Re: Busch Gardens Tampa Bay (BGT, BGA) Discussion Thread

Postby chadster » Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:47 pm

^^^^So, what you are saying is, that someone was attempting to hack the design firms web server and ran across files that someone forgot to password protect. Assuming that's what happened, it can still be considered stealing. Just because you leave your bike out in the middle of your yard, doesn't mean someone else can come into your yard and take the bike. If it's not excplicity shown on a company's web page or linked to it, doesn't mean you can backdoor in and take what you want.

I'm with Robb, I love the videos and can't wait to see what the BGT marketing department has in store for us next. Besides, the concept art might not even be what they are going with.

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Re: Busch Gardens Tampa Bay (BGT, BGA) Discussion Thread

Postby jarmor » Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:53 pm

^ I think what they are saying is that someone went to the site, the firm had pictures of maybe "recent projects" readily avaliable to view/download. The same thing happen to the harry potter contruction. One of the firms had the project pictures on it not knowing it will make the rounds thru the coaster community. I dont think it was any hacking or james bond activity involved. This isnt more like a bike in the front yard but like a stand with tomorrows news already on it for free...
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Re: Busch Gardens Tampa Bay (BGT, BGA) Discussion Thread

Postby chadster » Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:57 pm

^ nice analogy, I like it

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Re: Busch Gardens Tampa Bay (BGT, BGA) Discussion Thread

Postby Ratmead » Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:02 pm

All the files were available for anyone to download. Just like the other guy said, it was clearly posted in their "planroom" section, which isn't all that uncommon.

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