Coney Island (Luna Park) Development Discussion Thread

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Re: Coney Island Development Discussion Thread

Postby larrygator » Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:24 pm

I generally stop by Coney Island once a week now that it is on the way from work. For those curious souls, ground has not been broken yet on Thunderbolt. But remember, CAI had Luna Park up and running in 30 days.
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Re: Coney Island Development Discussion Thread

Postby Jew » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:21 pm

I wonder if the ride will have footers, or a portable base?
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Re: Coney Island Development Discussion Thread

Postby larrygator » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:48 pm

Jew wrote:I wonder if the ride will have footers, or a portable base?


I know this one is from Zamperla, but I can't recall if any of Gerstlauers besides Typhoon are on portable bases. I really don't pay attention to things like that.
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Re: Coney Island Development Discussion Thread

Postby Jew » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:51 pm

^I think you are correct. I was just wondering if this will be a portable base to not only save some money, but also to introduce the product as a competitor to Gerstlauer. If I remember right, the first motocoaster had a foundation too.
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Re: Coney Island Development Discussion Thread

Postby Hilltopper39 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:54 pm

larrygator wrote:
Jew wrote:I wonder if the ride will have footers, or a portable base?


I know this one is from Zamperla, but I can't recall if any of Gerstlauers besides Typhoon are on portable bases. I really don't pay attention to things like that.


I think that some of their more compact models like Iron Shark (Shark! Shark!) and the Spongebob ride at mall of America are on portable bases, but then again that could be due to the nature of those installation.

It seems like the layout of Thunderbolt is much too large to have it designed on a portable base. Then again it is kind of a long skinny plot of land, the kind that probably exists at just about every fair ground in the world.......

(the more I think about it, if this were a portable model it would kind of explain why the layout is so tight and funky. Seems like there is plenty of space there to build a "full size" ride with a unique layout if they really wanted to)

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Re: Coney Island Development Discussion Thread

Postby larrygator » Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:56 pm

It is a relatively thin plot of land, probably about the same width as The Cyclone. Also, one side of the plot is right up against the minor league baseball stadium and I don't know if there any any restrictions on how close the coaster can be to the stadium.
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Re: Coney Island Development Discussion Thread

Postby larrygator » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:36 pm

The City of New York as extended CAI lease for Luna Park until 2027, the lease was set to expire in 2020.

The City is also expected to renew the lease for the kiddie area of Deno's Wonder Wheel Park. Wonder Wheek park owner Dennis Vourderis already owns the land underneath the Wonder Wheel.

For those that are curious I saw no parts on site for the Thunderbolt when I stopped at Nathan's yesterday.

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City Extends Lease Of Coney Island Amusement Park Operator
By: Jeanine Ramirez
12/18/2013 11:36 PM


Mayor Michael Bloomberg is taking steps to preserve the footprint he made in Coney Island long after he's gone, as the city has extended the leases of several well-known Coney Island Boardwalk business through 2027. NY1's Jeanine Ramirez filed the following report.

The Soaring Eagle will continue to soar all the way to the year 2027.

In one the final acts of the Bloomberg administration, NY1 has exclusively learned that the city has extended the lease of Coney Island amusement park operator Central Amusement International for an additional seven years. CAI runs Luna Park, Scream Zone, the landmark Cyclone and all of the boardwalk businesses.

The city is also close to finishing a lease extension with Deno's Wonder Wheel Park.

"They've agreed to it, and we're just waiting for the final documents to be signed and sealed and delivered," said Dennis Vourderis, the owner of Deno's Wonder Wheel Park. "So we're very optimistic that will happen."

The Vourderis family owns the landmark Wonder Wheel but leases the land near the boardwalk to run its kiddie park.

"Our lease on the kiddie park section of our amusement park runs currently 'til the year 2020. We've asked to go to 2027," Vourderis said.

Vourderis said it's a great parting gift from Bloomberg, who has invested greatly in the development of Coney Island. In 2005, the city released the Coney Island Revitalization Plan, with initiatives to preserve and grow the amusement area. Luna Park opened in 2010, and Scream Zone opened the following year. The boardwalk got a makeover, among other enhancements in the area.

Coney Island's resurgence has been attracting record crowds, including Beyonce, who just this week released a music video featuring Coney Island in all its glory.

"Mayor Bloomberg not only put in a lot of money into the area by purchasing property and doing several million dollars in infrastructure improvements, but he's also lent us the support of his staff," Vourderis said. "We couldn't have done it without him."

Vourderis said that as a thank you, he'd like to offer a lifetime pass to Bloomberg, who will soon become a grandfather after he leaves office.

"We'd love to see your grandchild here on the kiddie rides some day," Vourderis said.

Those rides, along with the others in the amusement district, are set to spin for more than a dozen years.
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Re: Coney Island Development Discussion Thread

Postby Rollercoaster Rider » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:22 pm

Anyone still think Zamperla opening the park was a bad idea?
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Re: Coney Island Development Discussion Thread

Postby A.J. » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:50 pm

Rollercoaster Rider wrote:Anyone still think Zamperla opening the park was a bad idea?

I never did, honestly.
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Re: Coney Island Development Discussion Thread

Postby 3Mutts » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:27 pm

Rollercoaster Rider wrote:Anyone still think Zamperla opening the park was a bad idea?


No, in fact I think Zamperla taking over the park was a good idea (they really helped spruce the area up by removing non historic junkie carnival rides).
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