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Re: Darien Lake Discussion Thread

Postby coasterbill » Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:28 am

Pssssssst: It's a budget and staffing cut. It's Six Flags.

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Re: Darien Lake Discussion Thread

Postby rjr19 » Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:46 am

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john10693 wrote:Two entrances would both have to staffed all day with and I would guess Six Flags considered that. I would suggest one entrance is all that's needed and would be best for the park to manage security in the campground. Maybe a exit only alongside the amphitheater for the convenience of camp goers for after the laser show would work. I would think Six Flags or any management team would most likely go for the simplest most cost effective long term fix for guest security and this is probably the best fit.


There are a lot of full-season campers at Darien Lake who have campfires every night. There is no way that campers are going to want to have to walk all the way over to the amphitheatre to get to the park and then have to walk all the way over to Darien Square and then all the way back around to the campground. It wouldn't work like that. Also, the General Store has never officially been open to the public. Non-campers don't need to buy wood and camping supplies. The full-season campers would not want a lot of non-campers in that store or in that area, tbh. Campers will be happy that area is going to be handed back to campers only. :mickey:


I’m going to totally refute your statement. I have never camped at DL, but go to the park almost every week. You don’t know just how many times I went to the general store to buy something. Often, I don’t buy food at the park and instead bring a portable propane camp stove and have hot dogs or burgers in a picnic shelter out in the parking lot. There have been countless times I have forgotten a propane tank, hot dog/ burger buns, a lighter, etc. The general store is useful for non campers as well, and allowing non-campers to utilize it is another source of revenue for them. I don’t see why they would want to take that away.
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Re: Darien Lake Discussion Thread

Postby DarienPoint » Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:59 am

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Haymaker wrote:Probably because the General Store and arcade arent used by park goers that much

Non-campers do not need anything in the General Store, and there is already a nice arcade in the park. Non-campers don't need to be in that area.
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So Pizza In The Square would be closed off for non-campers then too?

Also doing this, doesn't it cut the complete circle, so if you're at Boomerang, you're gonna have to walk all the way back to the boardwalk and past Viper's batwing to get to Twister?
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Re: Darien Lake Discussion Thread

Postby rjr19 » Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:18 am

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PATTYCAKES wrote:
Haymaker wrote:Probably because the General Store and arcade arent used by park goers that much

Non-campers do not need anything in the General Store, and there is already a nice arcade in the park. Non-campers don't need to be in that area.
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So Pizza In The Square would be closed off for non-campers then too?

Also doing this, doesn't it cut the complete circle, so if you're at Boomerang, you're gonna have to walk all the way back to the boardwalk and past Viper's batwing to get to Twister?


The park complains about Twister having low ridership, causing it to be the first ride closed due to staffing, yet wouldn’t this cause it to have even lower ridership? Nobody would want to walk all the way to that dead end just for Tin Lizzie’s and Twister. It just will not work.
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Re: Darien Lake Discussion Thread

Postby coasterbill » Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:19 am

Twister won't be there long anyway. :lol:

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Re: Darien Lake Discussion Thread

Postby SbSteveZ » Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:32 am

DarienPoint wrote:
PATTYCAKES wrote:
Haymaker wrote:Probably because the General Store and arcade arent used by park goers that much

Non-campers do not need anything in the General Store, and there is already a nice arcade in the park. Non-campers don't need to be in that area.
:mickey:


So Pizza In The Square would be closed off for non-campers then too?

Also doing this, doesn't it cut the complete circle, so if you're at Boomerang, you're gonna have to walk all the way back to the boardwalk and past Viper's batwing to get to Twister?


They have a bridge and a scenic lake path for this very reason that has been closed off to the public for years. If they really wanted to they could fix that up and the circle would return again. But they probably won’t with just means you gotta plan accordingly when you tackle the park.
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Re: Darien Lake Discussion Thread

Postby ajfelice » Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:45 am

rjr19 wrote:The park complains about Twister having low ridership, causing it to be the first ride closed due to staffing, yet wouldn’t this cause it to have even lower ridership? Nobody would want to walk all the way to that dead end just for Tin Lizzie’s and Twister. It just will not work.


When facing staffing issues, almost every park will first pick a low-ridership attraction to close first since obviously there would be less people annoyed it's closed in the first place. The placement of Twister has a lot to do with low ridership, but I'm not sure where you are coming up with your assertion "The park complains about Twister having low ridership." The more drastic short-staffing measure is picking a larger, more popular attraction where minimum staffing requirements are so high that keeping that ride open means shutting down several others. Usually these are water rides with sprawling layouts.

Lastly, this time of year every seasonal park is hurting for staff. Darien Lake does not need to be overly scrutinized, but then again this is the Darien Lake Discussion Thread where logic is left at the door and dead horses are beaten to a pulp. Why did I even waste my time writing this.

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Re: Darien Lake Discussion Thread

Postby john10693 » Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:54 am

coasterbill wrote:Twister won't be there long anyway. :lol:

What? Then how am I supposed to be disappointed that the ride that's never open isn't open every day.

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Re: Darien Lake Discussion Thread

Postby PATTYCAKES » Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:27 am

rjr19 wrote:
PATTYCAKES wrote:
john10693 wrote:Two entrances would both have to staffed all day with and I would guess Six Flags considered that. I would suggest one entrance is all that's needed and would be best for the park to manage security in the campground. Maybe a exit only alongside the amphitheater for the convenience of camp goers for after the laser show would work. I would think Six Flags or any management team would most likely go for the simplest most cost effective long term fix for guest security and this is probably the best fit.


There are a lot of full-season campers at Darien Lake who have campfires every night. There is no way that campers are going to want to have to walk all the way over to the amphitheatre to get to the park and then have to walk all the way over to Darien Square and then all the way back around to the campground. It wouldn't work like that. Also, the General Store has never officially been open to the public. Non-campers don't need to buy wood and camping supplies. The full-season campers would not want a lot of non-campers in that store or in that area, tbh. Campers will be happy that area is going to be handed back to campers only. :mickey:


I’m going to totally refute your statement. I have never camped at DL, but go to the park almost every week. You don’t know just how many times I went to the general store to buy something. Often, I don’t buy food at the park and instead bring a portable propane camp stove and have hot dogs or burgers in a picnic shelter out in the parking lot. There have been countless times I have forgotten a propane tank, hot dog/ burger buns, a lighter, etc. The general store is useful for non campers as well, and allowing non-campers to utilize it is another source of revenue for them. I don’t see why they would want to take that away.


So, correct me if I am wrong. You actually walked through the park with a propane tank and a lighter? Maybe that is another reason security is now required at the campers entrance. :mickey:

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Re: Darien Lake Discussion Thread

Postby rjr19 » Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:00 am

PATTYCAKES wrote:
rjr19 wrote:
PATTYCAKES wrote:
john10693 wrote:Two entrances would both have to staffed all day with and I would guess Six Flags considered that. I would suggest one entrance is all that's needed and would be best for the park to manage security in the campground. Maybe a exit only alongside the amphitheater for the convenience of camp goers for after the laser show would work. I would think Six Flags or any management team would most likely go for the simplest most cost effective long term fix for guest security and this is probably the best fit.


There are a lot of full-season campers at Darien Lake who have campfires every night. There is no way that campers are going to want to have to walk all the way over to the amphitheatre to get to the park and then have to walk all the way over to Darien Square and then all the way back around to the campground. It wouldn't work like that. Also, the General Store has never officially been open to the public. Non-campers don't need to buy wood and camping supplies. The full-season campers would not want a lot of non-campers in that store or in that area, tbh. Campers will be happy that area is going to be handed back to campers only. :mickey:


I’m going to totally refute your statement. I have never camped at DL, but go to the park almost every week. You don’t know just how many times I went to the general store to buy something. Often, I don’t buy food at the park and instead bring a portable propane camp stove and have hot dogs or burgers in a picnic shelter out in the parking lot. There have been countless times I have forgotten a propane tank, hot dog/ burger buns, a lighter, etc. The general store is useful for non campers as well, and allowing non-campers to utilize it is another source of revenue for them. I don’t see why they would want to take that away.


So, correct me if I am wrong. You actually walked through the park with a propane tank and a lighter? Maybe that is another reason security is now required at the campers entrance. :mickey:


Do you seriously take everything and twist it into the opposite viewpoint? That wasn’t the point. The points was that it is useful to non-campers as well.
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