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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby Coastard69 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:24 am

Invertalon wrote:The transitions especially have no 'snap' to them

I think this is true of most B&M coasters made since around the time they started manufacturing wing coasters, dive coasters became more popularized and they introduced those staggered "wing" trains on their hypers than gigas. That timing would make sense as well because those types of rides require smoother elements and transitions by design. I'm guessing they decided to use the same type of "smoothness" for all of their designs, since they've mainly only built those types of rides since than any way. Plus they made their first family inverted model the same year as Banshee, so I'm assuming the full size models are going to be more aligned with the smoothness and flow of all those types of coasters.
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Postby pǝʇɹǝʌuı » Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:26 am

I was pleasantly surprised by the snappiness of the first couple of elements on Fury, but I think it's mostly agreed that Fury is kind of an outlier among newer B&Ms.

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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby DILinator » Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:59 am

I think B&M's all have good to great forces, and Banshee absolutley is snappy and intense! Ya'll crazy! Lol If anything, the early B&M Inverts and Stand-Up weren't engineered as well as the newer models, which is why they have stronger, and not as pleasant to the average person forces. The newest B&Ms I've ridden have shown me a maturity in design, that they deliver strong forces, without being too intense for the average rider, which is who parks are installing coasters for, remember.
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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby chschris1 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:28 pm

^^^ To be honest I think B&M had better rides in the earlier years. Look at Afterburn, Alpengeist, Raptor, Apollo's Chariot, etc. Those are all superior to me than some of the newer rides. Carowinds is my home park and Fury is the exception for sure. It is a fantastic ride minus the long drawn out part near the MCBR. I haven't ridden Banshee but it looks fun. Hoping to get to Kings Island soon.

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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby prozach626 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:29 am

I don't understand the complaints about Fury's helix. It slows near the top, but then it picks up its speed again on the way back down. It also has a nice head chopper.

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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby Coastard69 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:00 pm

robbalvey wrote:Classification: Giga
Height of Hills: 287 feet


So am I correct in assuming we have collectively broadened the definition of a "giga?"

coasterpedia wrote:A giga roller coaster is a complete circuit roller coaster that is built for height, speed, and airtime. These coasters are between 300 and 399 feet (91.4 and 121.6 meters) in height.


Millennium Force press release wrote: Termed a "giga-coaster" for its extreme height, Millennium Force will be the first and only roller coaster in the world to break the 300-foot-tall barrier.
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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby bgtlover » Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:51 pm

^It's basically the same for hypers who do not have a 200 foot or higher lift, but have at least one drop of 200 or more; Apollo's Chariot for example. Orion has a 300' drop...so it's a giga. Either way, if we are talking about models, they are still a hyper model according to B&M, regardless of what we call them.
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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby prozach626 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:12 am

Phantom's Revenge is a hyper due to the 2nd drop that uses the terrain. No one ever second guesses that, but it's not a B&M so no one cares enough to criticize it. Then again, maybe it was just constructed before people cared about stupid bullshit like roller coaster classification differences between 13 feet.

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Length 3,200.0 ft
Height 160.0 ft
Drop 228.0 ft
Speed 85.0 mph
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Duration 1:57
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I'm glad the ride height is only 287 feet tall just to give people something pointless to cry about.

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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby Pedrinho » Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:10 am

prozach626 wrote:I'm glad the ride height is only 287 feet tall just to give people something pointless to cry about.

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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby chschris1 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:40 am

I am in the camp that thinks that adding 13 more feet would have been advantageous for the park. Oh well, i'm sure it will be a hit for the park no matter what.

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