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Re: Disneyland Resort (DL, DLR, DCA) Discussion Thread

Postby ytterbiumanalyst » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:51 pm

So we're hearing rumours that Galaxy's Edge will have a fastpass-type system to enter the land after the reservation system ends in late June. Seems like a decent way to do it.

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Re: Disneyland Resort (DL, DLR, DCA) Discussion Thread

Postby PeoplemoverMatt » Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:24 pm

prospekt88 wrote:I agree it's gonna be really interesting how this plays out. I can't understand why they thought this was a necessary move. Not only do I not see the need for this to be in Disneyland Park, I don't know why it needed to be the first one to open, adding even more to the hype. Maybe since it's such an iconic expansion they wanted it in the most iconic park, and they wanted it there first. But Disneyland really already walks a fine line between being the "happiest place on earth" and "most stressful clusterf*ck" on earth". Like people said above that starts before you even enter the property with the surrounding traffic. If I was them I would be pretty worried that the quality of the product is going to be overshadowed by the maddening crowds surrounding it. For me, no matter how impressive the land looks I can't get excited about actually going there. I'm really excited to read detailed reports and reviews from afar, but even as a SoCal resident for the next year I don't plan on getting over there myself in that time frame.

In Orlando on the other hand at least they were able to build an entire land in Grand Avenue to queue the masses. They added a skyliner, new bus stops, tram stations, baggage check, etc. They even built a new E-ticket in Mickey and Minnie's Railway to absorb some of the crowds. I'm sure it'll still be madness in Orlando but I think they should've let it play out there for a couple years before opening the flood gates at Disneyland. I really don't see how this addition doesn't negatively impact the rest of the Disneyland park experience over the next couple of years. And I don't care at all that they're messing with "Walt's park", that isn't my point.


Disney's primary mission isn't to make sure you can leisurely stroll through an empty Star Wars land. It's to maximize the wealth of their shareholders. That's accomplished by building this sort of thing, thereby sending the value of the brand as well as ticket sales, merch sales, hotel occupancy and more through the roof. The rest is little more than adhering to various building and safety codes, demands of scary lawyers, and the terms of very expensive insurance policies.
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Re: Disneyland Resort (DL, DLR, DCA) Discussion Thread

Postby A.J. » Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:37 am

anonymouscactus wrote:Some others on this forum would disagree with you. Fortnite, anyone?

Fortnite may be ultra-popular now but it's going to eventually simmer down and have a smaller, but consistent player base like Minecraft or Grand Theft Auto 5. The Battle Royale video game genre is itself a fad that will not last. I don't even think that Fortnite would be anywhere near as popular as it is now had it not been sold as a free-to-start game and / or piggybacked off of PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds.

The reason why franchises such as Star Wars, Star Trek, Indiana Jones, Marvel Comics, DC Comics, et al remain popular is that they go beyond their original mediums. You don't see people writing "extended universe" novels about Fortnite. Fortnite doesn't have ten (mostly pretty great) films and several animated series. People love Fortnite for sure, but I'm not sure we'll ever see people "connect" with Fortnite like they do with the I.P.s previously mentioned.
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Re: Disneyland Resort (DL, DLR, DCA) Discussion Thread

Postby Dombot » Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:51 am

A.J. wrote:You don't see people writing "extended universe" novels about Fortnite. Fortnite doesn't have ten (mostly pretty great) films and several animated series.

Please don't give businesses ideas. :lol:
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Re: Disneyland Resort (DL, DLR, DCA) Discussion Thread

Postby anonymouscactus » Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:15 pm

Oh, A.J., I am well aware... I was just referring to someone in the SFA thread who is completely delusional in the power of Fortnite and won't stop posting about how profitable it would be, where they could build it, etc. Hell, I don't know anything about it, or care to know for that matter, but I know it's not going to have any sort of power against Star Wars.... lol.

Please no more Fortnite discussion, I should have never brought it up lol. Go get your fix in the SFA thread ;)

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Re: Disneyland Resort (DL, DLR, DCA) Discussion Thread

Postby prospekt88 » Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:50 pm

PeoplemoverMatt wrote:
prospekt88 wrote:I agree it's gonna be really interesting how this plays out. I can't understand why they thought this was a necessary move. Not only do I not see the need for this to be in Disneyland Park, I don't know why it needed to be the first one to open, adding even more to the hype. Maybe since it's such an iconic expansion they wanted it in the most iconic park, and they wanted it there first. But Disneyland really already walks a fine line between being the "happiest place on earth" and "most stressful clusterf*ck" on earth". Like people said above that starts before you even enter the property with the surrounding traffic. If I was them I would be pretty worried that the quality of the product is going to be overshadowed by the maddening crowds surrounding it. For me, no matter how impressive the land looks I can't get excited about actually going there. I'm really excited to read detailed reports and reviews from afar, but even as a SoCal resident for the next year I don't plan on getting over there myself in that time frame.

In Orlando on the other hand at least they were able to build an entire land in Grand Avenue to queue the masses. They added a skyliner, new bus stops, tram stations, baggage check, etc. They even built a new E-ticket in Mickey and Minnie's Railway to absorb some of the crowds. I'm sure it'll still be madness in Orlando but I think they should've let it play out there for a couple years before opening the flood gates at Disneyland. I really don't see how this addition doesn't negatively impact the rest of the Disneyland park experience over the next couple of years. And I don't care at all that they're messing with "Walt's park", that isn't my point.


Disney's primary mission isn't to make sure you can leisurely stroll through an empty Star Wars land. It's to maximize the wealth of their shareholders. That's accomplished by building this sort of thing, thereby sending the value of the brand as well as ticket sales, merch sales, hotel occupancy and more through the roof. The rest is little more than adhering to various building and safety codes, demands of scary lawyers, and the terms of very expensive insurance policies.


Yeah I understand how a public company operates, thanks. My point isn't that I want to be able to have Star Wars Land to myself. I just think that for the long term benefit of the resort I think it would've been better to take their time with building the land in California. I don't know why they decided to get it done at Disneyland Park first, or even at Disneyland Park at all. I think they are making a log jam of a park into an even bigger log jam, and that has the potential of really hurting the public's perception of the park in the long run. They already hit capacity pretty regularly despite huge blackout periods for season ticket holders, while the park across the plaza is struggling after a billion dollar renovation.

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Re: Disneyland Resort (DL, DLR, DCA) Discussion Thread

Postby Jew » Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:31 pm

prospekt88 wrote:
PeoplemoverMatt wrote:
prospekt88 wrote:I agree it's gonna be really interesting how this plays out. I can't understand why they thought this was a necessary move. Not only do I not see the need for this to be in Disneyland Park, I don't know why it needed to be the first one to open, adding even more to the hype. Maybe since it's such an iconic expansion they wanted it in the most iconic park, and they wanted it there first. But Disneyland really already walks a fine line between being the "happiest place on earth" and "most stressful clusterf*ck" on earth". Like people said above that starts before you even enter the property with the surrounding traffic. If I was them I would be pretty worried that the quality of the product is going to be overshadowed by the maddening crowds surrounding it. For me, no matter how impressive the land looks I can't get excited about actually going there. I'm really excited to read detailed reports and reviews from afar, but even as a SoCal resident for the next year I don't plan on getting over there myself in that time frame.

In Orlando on the other hand at least they were able to build an entire land in Grand Avenue to queue the masses. They added a skyliner, new bus stops, tram stations, baggage check, etc. They even built a new E-ticket in Mickey and Minnie's Railway to absorb some of the crowds. I'm sure it'll still be madness in Orlando but I think they should've let it play out there for a couple years before opening the flood gates at Disneyland. I really don't see how this addition doesn't negatively impact the rest of the Disneyland park experience over the next couple of years. And I don't care at all that they're messing with "Walt's park", that isn't my point.


Disney's primary mission isn't to make sure you can leisurely stroll through an empty Star Wars land. It's to maximize the wealth of their shareholders. That's accomplished by building this sort of thing, thereby sending the value of the brand as well as ticket sales, merch sales, hotel occupancy and more through the roof. The rest is little more than adhering to various building and safety codes, demands of scary lawyers, and the terms of very expensive insurance policies.


Yeah I understand how a public company operates, thanks. My point isn't that I want to be able to have Star Wars Land to myself. I just think that for the long term benefit of the resort I think it would've been better to take their time with building the land in California. I don't know why they decided to get it done at Disneyland Park first, or even at Disneyland Park at all. I think they are making a log jam of a park into an even bigger log jam, and that has the potential of really hurting the public's perception of the park in the long run. They already hit capacity pretty regularly despite huge blackout periods for season ticket holders, while the park across the plaza is struggling after a billion dollar renovation.


The crowds and opening only one ride (smart IMO, wait until the other one is ready) will have zero impact on the brand. They’d gain absolutely nothing having a fully functioning land minus one ride doing nothing.

I’d also say that the 13th busiest park in the world is hardly struggling.
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Re: Disneyland Resort (DL, DLR, DCA) Discussion Thread

Postby Shut It Down » Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:53 pm

Jew wrote:
prospekt88 wrote:
PeoplemoverMatt wrote:
prospekt88 wrote:I agree it's gonna be really interesting how this plays out. I can't understand why they thought this was a necessary move. Not only do I not see the need for this to be in Disneyland Park, I don't know why it needed to be the first one to open, adding even more to the hype. Maybe since it's such an iconic expansion they wanted it in the most iconic park, and they wanted it there first. But Disneyland really already walks a fine line between being the "happiest place on earth" and "most stressful clusterf*ck" on earth". Like people said above that starts before you even enter the property with the surrounding traffic. If I was them I would be pretty worried that the quality of the product is going to be overshadowed by the maddening crowds surrounding it. For me, no matter how impressive the land looks I can't get excited about actually going there. I'm really excited to read detailed reports and reviews from afar, but even as a SoCal resident for the next year I don't plan on getting over there myself in that time frame.

In Orlando on the other hand at least they were able to build an entire land in Grand Avenue to queue the masses. They added a skyliner, new bus stops, tram stations, baggage check, etc. They even built a new E-ticket in Mickey and Minnie's Railway to absorb some of the crowds. I'm sure it'll still be madness in Orlando but I think they should've let it play out there for a couple years before opening the flood gates at Disneyland. I really don't see how this addition doesn't negatively impact the rest of the Disneyland park experience over the next couple of years. And I don't care at all that they're messing with "Walt's park", that isn't my point.


Disney's primary mission isn't to make sure you can leisurely stroll through an empty Star Wars land. It's to maximize the wealth of their shareholders. That's accomplished by building this sort of thing, thereby sending the value of the brand as well as ticket sales, merch sales, hotel occupancy and more through the roof. The rest is little more than adhering to various building and safety codes, demands of scary lawyers, and the terms of very expensive insurance policies.


Yeah I understand how a public company operates, thanks. My point isn't that I want to be able to have Star Wars Land to myself. I just think that for the long term benefit of the resort I think it would've been better to take their time with building the land in California. I don't know why they decided to get it done at Disneyland Park first, or even at Disneyland Park at all. I think they are making a log jam of a park into an even bigger log jam, and that has the potential of really hurting the public's perception of the park in the long run. They already hit capacity pretty regularly despite huge blackout periods for season ticket holders, while the park across the plaza is struggling after a billion dollar renovation.


The crowds and opening only one ride (smart IMO, wait until the other one is ready) will have zero impact on the brand. They’d gain absolutely nothing having a fully functioning land minus one ride doing nothing.

I’d also say that the 13th busiest park in the world is hardly struggling.


To second what Jew said, I go to DL resort frequently and Cali Adventure is PACKED every time I go. At times it seems as if it’s busier than Disneyland across the way. In other words not struggling at all. Oh and I can’t wait to see the place when Avengers land opens next year!

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