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Re: Canada's Wonderland Discussion Thread

Postby BlahBlahson » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:11 am

Restraints always have a big impact on the ride experience. I still have Millennium Force ranked just above I305 almost purely because open and free T-Bars don't dig into my shoulders and hurt like the I-305 restraints do. Phoenix is a top 5 wooden coaster purely because of the absurd buzzbar airtime the ride provides, it would be totally different with normal PTC individual ratcheting restraints and a restraining seatbelt.

No one individual's opinion really matters on this, but I for one absolutely value certain rides over others due to the amount of freedom and comfort of the experience on it. I can see why an enthusiast would like Griffon more than Valravn (or Yukon) solely because of the restraint design. And no, it's not going to matter to the park's bottom line or the general public, just the nerds.
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Re: Canada's Wonderland Discussion Thread

Postby RollerManic » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:26 pm

SbSteveZ wrote:You may not be getting as much hang time on the drop as the two other dives in North America, but to most everyone who rides these things? They could care less.

Except for me, that is literally half the thrill of this niche-type coaster. If I didn’t care to be scared shitless sliding towards the buckle of my seat hanging over a 200 ft drop, then I’d go ride any drop tower. These dive machines offer one thing specific that in particular makes them extra interesting. The rest of the thrill/fun comes from all the other aspects of the ride, but that insane first half of the thrill as I just mentioned is what makes it particularly noteworthy.

Case in point: I wasn’t expecting much of ANYTHING out of Hangtime’s holding brake because of the height, angle, and floored train design. However, I was caught off-guard when my body slid way forward in my seat to where my legs where almost parallel in a standing-like fashion, where the seat back was behind me and at a depressed angle. This put my whole body right over the connection between the trains where there was no floor and my view was of nothing between me and the ground. It was such a good effect as to say I almost actually preferred it to B&M’s.

It's in the same token as being stapled on a ride, really. No one is going to automatically call a ride bad if their butt can't leave the seat because they're stapled, but as I've encountered, most enthusiasts are going to prefer if can have some room to float. Matter of a fact, in another token, the ride experience with vest restraints is again comparable to being stapled for those who complain of the vest compressing during the ride. Look, I don't experience this problem myself, and so I hold ZERO bias about it, but I understand that for many this is a real issue just the same as how being stapled in some cases can just simply be no more than an uncomfortable experience above all else.

I respect that the ride will be great with or without the vest restraints, and (especially for me as I don't have pain with vest restraints) it wouldn't change my decision to ride it someday should I ever have the chance, but it's not doing anything to catch my eye like the other dive machines without them. That is all - I think it simply has more potential by being the way dive machines have been for years - and I've never had a problem with headbanging on any of those.

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Re: Canada's Wonderland Discussion Thread

Postby SbSteveZ » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:13 pm

^ I think you got it right on the nose there. People complaining about the ride before it’s even open is something that I don’t understand, never have understood and likely never will. Everyone is so quick to judge and it’s frustrating especially for someone like me who’s just excited to see a large coaster being installed just a short-ish drive away. Why rain on everyone else’s parade so soon, right? But hey, I’m still going to ride the coaster and likely enjoy it just as much as I enjoyed Valravn and Griffon and any other B&M that I’ve been on. They’re good, reliable rides, and I respect them for that and appreciate their capacity even more.
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Re: Canada's Wonderland Discussion Thread

Postby Sledgehammer_77 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:37 pm

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Re: Canada's Wonderland Discussion Thread

Postby ryan.enarson » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:20 am

Hey guys, I'm new here. Was just wondering if any of you will visiting the park on April 26 for Preview Night. Yukon Striker is really looking like an experience though! Most excited for the drop into the tunnel. Also I always thought the name Vortex was a reference to the polar vortexes we experience here in Canada lol

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Re: Canada's Wonderland Discussion Thread

Postby Jfray95 » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:45 am

My wife and I will be there. So excited for Yukon Striker.

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Re: Canada's Wonderland Discussion Thread

Postby prozach626 » Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:46 am

^ I doubt you two will enjoy it. According to a lot of other expert coaster enthusiasts the ride will be boring and it will break your collar bones.
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Re: Canada's Wonderland Discussion Thread

Postby Intamin_coyote » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:41 am

And according to some its "basically Valravn only a little bigger and faster" (even though it isn't).
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Re: Canada's Wonderland Discussion Thread

Postby Jfray95 » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:57 pm

Lol ok. We dont care about other peoples opinions though, we just love roller coasters. :P

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Re: Canada's Wonderland Discussion Thread

Postby ytterbiumanalyst » Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:34 pm

prozach626 wrote:^ I doubt you two will enjoy it. According to a lot of other expert coaster enthusiasts the ride will be boring and it will break your collar bones.

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