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Re: The Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby Mike Austin » Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:16 am

Pilgrim's is a Shoot the Chutes, which have bigger 20+-man boats which create a huge splash in a much wider track, and only have one drop. Only one boat goes around the track at a time. Similar rides are Perilous Plunge at Knott's and Tidal Wave at Thorpe.

Log Flumes, on the other hand, have much smaller 4/5-man boats, a much thinner, longer track, 2-3 drops and can have many boats going around at the same time. You also tend to stay a lot dryer on flumes than you do chutes.

Shoot the Rapids is quite clearly a Flume, and not a Chute.

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Re: The Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby StLCPfan » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:39 am

Pilgrim's Plunge is not a chute-the-chutes ride dude. The boats are EXACTLY the same as Shoot The Rapids' are, 2-across five rows seating 10 passengers. The only difference between Pilgrim's Plunge and Intamin's other new and improved log flumes is the elevator lift and 135-foot drop. It is a SUPER FLUME. Yes, the ride is mostly about the drop. Holiday World touted the largest drop from the very beginning. The ability to tone down the splash to make it an acceptable amount of wetness instead of the tidal wave of chute-the-chutes rides is the difference.

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Re: The Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby ohiocoasters » Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:24 pm

All these pictures make me excited for StR. I can't wait for May 15th!
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Re: The Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby coasterking2981 » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:19 pm

Does it really matter if StR and PP are chutes or flumes? They are both water rides that make a big splash and get people wet. End of discussion.

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Re: The Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby King of Ka » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:13 pm

^ Aha, but that's where you're wrong!

In fact, S:tR has a wide, quick, but overall very medium 5-9 splash radius. PP's splash, on the other hand, is more of a "water wall," and has a generally recognized splash radius of 10-20. Water rides with a splash radius of less than 10 are usually referred to as "Flumelites", and over 10 are "Hyper Chutes." Clearly, the two rides are ENTIRELY different.

And this isn't even considering wetness to ride length ratios.

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Re: The Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby Swiminn6 » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:14 pm

ohiocoasters wrote:All these pictures make me excited for StR. I can't wait for May 15th!


Same! They are moving quickly with progress now!

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Re: The Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby coasterking2981 » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:27 pm

King of Ka wrote: Clearly, the two rides are ENTIRELY different.


No, they are not. No matter the fancy name, size, or the type of lift, they go up, and come back down. They make a splash. Period.

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Re: The Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby DBru » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:43 pm

King of Ka wrote:In fact, S:tR has a wide, quick, but overall very medium 5-9 splash radius. PP's splash, on the other hand, is more of a "water wall," and has a generally recognized splash radius of 10-20.


Um, have you actually seen Pilgrims Plunge's splash? It isn't large at all. It's size is nothing like the park had anticipated/advertised.

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Re: The Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby themeparkologist » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:03 pm

Can it just be left at : Big drop makes splash and you get wet? This is a pointless dispute.
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Re: The Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby atem122 » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:07 pm

atem122 wrote:For the sake of avoiding one of the most boring and pointless debates in history, I think I'm just going to agree to disagree ;)

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