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Knoebels Discussion Thread

Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:14 am

Hey everybody!

This thread is simple! Rather than having a million little threads about everything that goes on at Knoebels, this thread is designed to consolidate it all into one user-friendly thread. Feel free to use it to post updates, trip reports, questions, comments, and of course, general discussion. For pictures and videos of the park as well as past updates, see TPR's Park Index Page for Knoebels.

Official Park Website

Below are some links to past updates from the park, you may be interested in. Enjoy!


October 9th, 2005 - Knoebels announces they will be recreating a Flying Turns coaster

January 20th, 2006 - changes for 2006, including 3D motion theater
June 28th, 2006 - Knoebels floods

January 11th, 2007 - Knoebels purchases adjoining golf course

December 23rd, 2008 - Changes for 2009 revealed, High Speed Thrill Coaster to be removed

January 26th, 2009 - Knoebels is revealed as the mystery buyer of Wildwood's Golden Nugget
March 14th, 2009 - Newspaper article reveals Kosmo's Kurves as the HSTC replacement
July 28th, 2009 - Kosmo's Kurves is complete
November 28th, 2009 - Barbara Knoebel passes away

March 9th, 2010 - Golden Nugget from Hunt's Pier (Wildwood) to be transformed into Black Diamond

October 8th, 2011 - Black Diamond opens

June 28th, 2012 - Flying Turns transfer track has been removed

January 7th, 2013 - teaser for a new ride
January 8th, 2013 - Knoebels confirms new 148 foot ARM drop tower for the 2013 season
October 4th, 2013 - Flying Turns opens

February 20th, 2014 - Impulse announced, a Zierer vertical lift coaster

February 27th, 2015 - Impulse construction update (Impulse topped off)
April 25th, 2015 - Impulse opens

January 7th, 2017 - Over The Top announced for 2017

February 1st, 2019 - Over the Top is being removed and replaced with a flat ride from SBF, also an newer Downdraft model will be installed

Wisdom Tornado announced for 2020


So apparently we have heard from some of the people who were at PPP last night that Knoebel's announced that they were interested in installing a "Flying Turns" roller coaster.

Anyone hear any more about this? It's kind of an interesting concept as Flying Turns are much like the Intamin and Mack bobsled rides, but from what I heard that want to build this one out of wood like the "Classics."

Here's a couple of photos of some old-school "Flying Turns" rides:






Have a look at the website! This is what I see:

There is also an update page with some new information about the ground breaking:

Last edited by SharkTums on Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:19 am.

Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:22 am

If they get one I'd move in next door and go there every day. Seriously.

A true flying turns coaster is not just a bobsled made out of wood. They had extreme turns, drops, laterals, airtime, etc. They were built by a former airforce fighter pilot to replicate the feeling of ariel combat, with some help from John Miller in the begining. These things were top thrill rides on par with anything, unlike bobsleds which are family coasters (although quite enjoyable family coasters, from what I hear).

They're my favorite lost coaster style. It would be awesome if Knobel's would get one. It would be more awesome if Busch Gardens got one, though.
Last edited by chauncey on Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:23 am.

Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:22 am

Wow, that's kind of interesting. My big question is who would build such a project? Not saying there isn't anybody that would, but just wondering who.

Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:22 am

Scaparri wrote:Wow, that's kind of interesting. My big question is who would build such a project? Not saying there isn't anybody that would, but just wondering who.

Knoebel's build their own coasters.

Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:47 am

chauncey wrote:Knoebel's build their own coasters.

Umm let's see .. they may do the construction in-house but not the design or manufacturing:

1) Phoenix - PTC, Frank Hoover .. rebuilt by Fetterman and Dinn
2) Whirlwind - Vekoma
3) Twister - PTC, John Allen ... rebuilt by Fetterman based on Mr. Twister plans.

Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:55 am

Nobody "manufactures" wooden rollercoasters, unless they're prefabricated. The parks either higher out a construction company, or, in the case of Knoebel's, build them in-house.

The designs of Knoebel's coasters are modified from existing plans by the park and John Fetterman.

This coaster will probably be built the same way. They'll buy the plans (or have bought the plans) to a defunct Flying Turns rollercoaster, redesign them with the help of John Fetterman, and "manufacture" them in-house. That's what I meant.

Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:34 am

I really hope this happens.


Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:56 am


Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:53 pm

I hope they do, that kind of coaster looks fun!

Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:26 pm

If only this were for the 2006 season, now that would make my day (aside from finishing my english paper :lol:).
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