Rye Playland Discussion Thread

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Re: Rye Playland Discussion Thread

Postby Jcoaster » Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:37 am

I was so embarassed for that ride I wanted to get up halfway through and walk out.
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Re: Rye Playland Discussion Thread

Postby Philrad71 » Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:17 pm

KingRCT3 wrote:
larrygator wrote:
Genx24 wrote:^^ I read your post as well, but although the evidence adds up, you didn't "prove" anything. This plan still has to be approved. The Chance under construction could be going anywhere.


Using the word proof might just be a language error from KingRCT since I think English is not his native language.

Yes, thank you, that's exactly it. I used proof for a lack of a better word. My point was that we have this clue, plus this clue, plus this clue, all leading toward an hypothesis (rather than a proof ;)) that I think is quite probable. Then again, plans might change.

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Nope....no fuss here - thanks to all for the clarity on the proposed coaster and for your hypothesis, King RCT3! ;)

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Re: Rye Playland Discussion Thread

Postby coasterbill » Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:32 pm

Jcoaster wrote:I was so embarassed for that ride I wanted to get up halfway through and walk out.


That's about what I expected. They redid the entire thing like 10-15 years ago. Before that it was a level of awful not seen since... well since Zombie Castle. I assumed they let this version go to hell too. So cool, now the Derby Racer and Log Flume (which isn't even that great a flume) are truly the only rides worth doing.

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Re: Rye Playland Discussion Thread

Postby Jcoaster » Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:47 pm

coasterbill wrote:
Jcoaster wrote:I was so embarassed for that ride I wanted to get up halfway through and walk out.


That's about what I expected. They redid the entire thing like 10-15 years ago. Before that it was a level of awful not seen since... well since Zombie Castle. I assumed they let this version go to hell too. So cool, now the Derby Racer and Log Flume (which isn't even that great a flume) are truly the only rides worth doing.


Don't forget double shot...And yea I last rode Old Mill about 10 years ago...Back then it wasn't "as" bad :roll:
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Re: Rye Playland Discussion Thread

Postby Rai Fox » Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:42 am

coasterbill wrote:^ Basically this... the Old Mill used to be good but I imagine they've let it go to hell.


It's in poor condition now, with a lot of missing scenes and empty space, but I think it's definitely salvageable. If the new management wants to invest a little in a classic ride, it could be pretty good, especially with how rare that kind of ride is now.

I'm getting quite anxious waiting to hear if Standard Amusements goes through with this. Playland's in terrible shape now, but there's something about the place that I still really like. Maybe it's just that the little seaside park reminds me of my childhood time at Rocky Point (RIP =<). With a little love it could be such a great, unique place.

I wonder what they can do about the patrons, though. When I visited, it was definitely the people that were the biggest problems there. Line jumping, vandalism, just general rudeness...No amount of money can magically fix that.

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Re: Rye Playland Discussion Thread

Postby I305forever » Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:30 pm

I rode it a few years back and still found it pretty enjoyable. The park definitely has a certain charm to it, although it really could use some new rides and general improvements.
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Re: Rye Playland Discussion Thread

Postby larrygator » Tue May 03, 2016 6:55 pm

http://www.lohud.com/story/news/local/westchester/2016/05/02/playland-amended-contract/83596396/

A decision has finally been made about the leadership of Rye Playland. Standard Amusement's agreement has been extended another 30 years.

Westchester County will chip in $32 million for improvements (cosmetic to the buildings and ride restoration). Standard Amusement will invest $27.5 million in the park over the next 30 years.

Th article is included below

Standard Amusements will run Playland, county to invest $32M
Mark Lungariello, mlungariel@lohud.com 12:53 a.m. EDT May 3, 2016

WHITE PLAINS – The Dragon Coaster got a new pet-sitter late Monday night.

Westchester County lawmakers voted 13-4 to give the keys to Playland to a management company called Standard Amusements, a hedgefund-backed group headed by Harrison native Nicholas Singer. The move ends a six-year process to find a private-sector manager to take over day-to-day operations of the financially-strapped county-owned park.

The county, which will maintain ownership, is also expected to chip in $32 million to restore the park's deteriorating Art Deco infrastructure through projects including a repaving of the parking lot and restoration of some historical rides.

"I believe with this vote, Playland amusement park’s future is ensured for generations to come," Board of Legislators Chairman Michael Kaplowitz, a Democrat who heads a bipartisan coalition, said.

Standard agrees to invest an additional $27.5 million of its own money in the deal, which runs for 30 years.

Under the terms of the agreement, Standard pays Westchester escalating annual payments starting at $300,000. After the company recoups its initial investment, Westchester gets 8 percent of net income generated at the park. Westchester’s cut increases to 10 percent after the first 10 years of the deal and increases to 12 percent in years 21-30.

Legislator Catherine Borgia was one of four Democrats who voted against the contract, but were expected to vote in favor of the county's investment as landlords.

"At this time, I do not believe the county has represented its taxpayers as well as Standard has represented its investors," she said.

The county first reached a deal with Standard last June, but negotiations continued to amend some contract terms and to include an obligation that Westchester invest in infrastructure repairs there.

The original price tag for those repairs was $58 million, which led some lawmakers to express sticker shock and threatened to sink the deal. More negotiating took place to reduce the county’s obligation by more than $20 million by scaling back some of the projects and deferring some work including restoration of the colonnades there.

The effort to privatize the park goes back to 2010, when County Executive Rob Astorino, a Republican, came into office and sought bids for the park which suffered from a pattern of financial losses and declining attendance. Standard bid on the work, but finished as runner-up behind a nonprofit group called Sustainable Playland, which formed specifically to run the park but backed out in 2014.

Steve Vasko, a member of the group Save Playland, had opposed the Sustainable plan but said he favored Standard as the manager. Vasko, in a recent interview, said one of the appealing aspects was the company’s ability to make an upfront investment in the park.

“I say we move it ahead and we should be moving wholeheartedly,” he said.

Under the terms of the contract, Standard has the sole discretion on whom it hires. The deal also gives the company the option of contracting full-time county employees to work at Playland on annual basis. If Standard utilizes the employees, it agrees to reimburse Westchester 100 percent of salary costs and 30 percent of the benefits owed to them. If the company keeps the employees on for two years, it agrees to pay 100 percent of the benefits.

The president of the Civil Service Employees Association Unit 9200, which has 25 members working at Playland, said he met with lawmakers to ask that they add another layer of protection for workers so that they could remain union members and have their time on the job counted toward their public-sector pensions. President Kwabena Manu said prior to the vote he was disappointed with the agreement.

“It’s just baloney,” Manu said.

Although the long-term fate of Playland seems to be sealed, one aspect of the plan remains floating in uncertainty: whether the Playland pool will be replaced with a water-view dining vista.

The company had originally suggested filling the Playland pool, but that plan saw pushback from some residents and Legislator Jim Maisano, a Republican who said removing the pool would be a dealbreaker.

The company has since said it would leave it up to the county whether or not to remove the pool, but repairing rather than replacing it could inflate the cost to Westchester from $4 million to more than $10 million. Lawmakers will decide what to do with the pool within three months after the vote tonight.

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Re: Rye Playland Discussion Thread

Postby Rai Fox » Wed May 04, 2016 7:53 pm

Really exciting for those of us in southern New England. I can't wait to see what this place looks like in a few years now

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Re: Rye Playland Discussion Thread

Postby Voyager6442 » Wed May 11, 2016 8:45 am

I'm thinking about taking a day on a road trip this summer to go to Quassy and Rye Playland. My interest is in the wooden roller coasters, and I have a fairly high tolerance for roughness. I would like to hear everyone's opinion of Dragon Coaster at Rye Playland. Thanks.
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Re: Rye Playland Discussion Thread

Postby Genx24 » Wed May 11, 2016 9:09 am

The Dragon is terrible. Bulky Morgan trains, no air, no laterals, and a hell of a lot of jackhammering. If you really want to get on it go for it, but don't go out of your way to come ride it.
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