Three Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 (edited) Let's make this really comprehensive, shall we? Which in each group is your favorite? Which is your least favorite? In order of appearance: Stand-up Iron Wolf Vortex (PGA) Vortex (PC) Mantis Chang Riddler's Revenge Georgia Scorcher Inverted Batman/Batman/etc. Top Gun Nemesis Raptor/Orochi Montu Alpengeist Pyrenees Great Bear Top Gun: The Jet Coaster Dueling Dragons (Fire) Dueling Dragons (Ice) Katun Talon Nemesis Inferno Silver Bullet Sit-down Kumba Dragon Kahn Incredible Hulk Wildfire Diving Machines Oblivion G5 Mega Coasters Apollo's Chariot Raging Bull Nitro Silver Star Floorless Coasters Medusa/Scream! Superman: Krypton Coaster Medusa (SFMW) Batman: Knight Flight/Dominator Kraken Crazy Flying Coaster Superman: La Atracción de Acero Batman: The Dark Knight Dæmon Flying Coasters Air Superman: Ultimate Flight/etc. ... I didn't include SheiKra or Hydra: The Revenge, because they are not open yet. Though I think in the case of one of them at least, it will probably be "no-contest" in its category come May. Edited April 8, 2005 by Three Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterkid20 Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 I havn't ridden a great deal of the coasters out of each category so I'll give the 2 categories that I have ridden more than 1 in. Stand UP, all ridden except the vortexs. Georgia Scorcher, easily hands down the best standup. Inverted: A LOT of batman's, Raptor and Silver Bullet Raptor, although personally I don't really get the inverted thing. Floorless (2 Ridden, Batman Knight Flight (before it got dominated), and Superman Krypton Coaster. Krypton Coaster, also in my top 10. I've also ridden 2 of the Superman Ultimate Flights, but I don't have a preference. Best B&M altogether: Wildfire, it really has EVERYTHING I look for in a steel coaster, and there is no dead spots at all, sort of like a Batman: The Ride except more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socalMAN123 Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 I think I would more liek all of them, but I would have to go with inverted because that is the one with teh most ones I've been on. ---Brent 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster1 Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 From Best to Worst in my view: Inverts: Montu Dueling Dragons Batmans Silver Bullet Raptor Top Gun (PGA) Alpengeist Mega Coasters: Raging Bull Apollo's Chariot Stand-Ups: Georgia Scorcher Chang Riddler's Revenge Mantis Vortex (PGA) Iron Wolf Floorless: Kraken Batman: Knight Flight/Dominator Medusa (SFGAdv) Medusa (SFMW) Scream Superman: Krypton Coaster Sit-Down: Wildfire Kumba Incredible Hulk Dragon Khan Flyers: Superman: Ultimate Flight (SFOG) This may change some after I get to Carowinds in a few weeks, but for some reason I really really enjoyed Silver Bullet and depise S:KC .. it's bumpy and rough, more so than Scream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freefall Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 socalMAN123 says: I think I would more liek all of them, but I would have to go with inverted because that is the one with teh most ones I've been on. harhar!!! Hmmm well I've only been on nemesis, for anyone who has not ridden it you will not find a picture that will do it justice as its built mostly under ground as the park its in can not allow anything built higher than the trees, this sounds kina lame, the ride however is super intence and you dont know whats coming next, you have many near misses against the ground, the station or even the rivers of blood but always make it out with a twist or a loop sending you into yet more danger. while it might sound like a coaster build in a hole its has the best senary and themeing I've seen, also the track has been hollowed so that the sound of the train eccos down the track and around the vally its in, dueling dragons looks great but for near miss action its all about nemesis. Also I've heard nemesis inferno is a boring ride just with the spin off nemesis name to make it sound worthy but its super boring in comparison. i think anyone who has been on the original would say that the way its themed makes it so hectic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 (edited) Here are my grades: Stand-up Iron Wolf: D Vortex (PGA): C- Vortex (PC): C- Mantis: C Chang: C+ Riddler's Revenge: B- Georgia Scorcher: B Inverted Batman/Batman/etc.: A Top Gun: B+ Nemesis: A+ Raptor/Orochi: B+ Montu: B+ Alpengeist: C Pyrenees: A- Great Bear: B- Top Gun: The Jet Coaster: B+ Dueling Dragons (Fire): A+ Dueling Dragons (Ice): A+ Talon: C- Silver Bullet: C Sit-down Kumba: A+ Incredible Hulk: B+ Wildfire: B Diving Machines Oblivion: B- Mega Coasters Apollo's Chariot: C Raging Bull: A- Nitro: B Silver Star: C- Floorless Coasters Medusa East: B Scream!: C+ Medusa West: C- Superman: Krypton Coaster: B+ Medusa (SFMW) Kraken: A- Batman: The Dark Knight: B- Batman: Knight Flight/Dominator: A- Flying Coasters Air: C Superman: Ultimate Flight: B- --Robb Edited April 8, 2005 by robbalvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What Now Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 Stand-up Vortex (PGA)- C+ Riddler's Revenge- B+ Inverted Batman/Batman/etc.- A- Top Gun- A- Alpengeist- A Great Bear- B Talon- C Silver Bullet- B- Mega Coasters Apollo's Chariot- A+ Nitro- A+ Floorless Coasters Medusa/Scream!- C- Medusa (SFMW)- B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scaparri Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 Stand-up Iron Wolf- D (A+ before it become so rough) Mantis- B Chang- B+ Georgia Scorcher- B Inverted Batmans- A Raptor- A+ Alpengeist- A- Mega Coasters Apollo's Chariot- A- Raging Bull- A+ Floorless Coasters Dominator- A- Flying Coasters Superman: Ultimate Flights- B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freefall Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 Freefall (thats me) says: you have many near misses against the ground, the station or even the rivers of blood After putting up this post I checked out robs free video clip of nemesis and was upset to see that in your recording the rivers of blood are just water now they must have ran out of people to sacrifice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterFanatic Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 My grades. I got lazy and copied Robb's list and made my changes. He has been on every one that I have been on and more. Stand-up Vortex (PC): D Mantis: B- Chang: D+ Riddler's Revenge: A- Inverted Batman/Batman/etc.: B+ Top Gun: A- Raptor: B+ Montu: A- Alpengeist: B- Great Bear: C Dueling Dragons (Fire): A Dueling Dragons (Ice): A+ Talon: B- Silver Bullet: D Sit-down Kumba: A- Incredible Hulk: A Mega Coasters Apollo's Chariot: C Nitro: B+ Floorless Coasters Scream!: C+ Medusa (SFGAdv) C+ Kraken: A Batman: Knight Flight/Dominator: B+ Flying Coasters Superman: Ultimate Flight: C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Posted April 8, 2005 Author Share Posted April 8, 2005 D'oh! Can't believe I forgot Knight Flight/Dominator Out of curiousity, why are Scream! and Medusa being rated so differently? I know Medusa is a bit better themed (I can't believe California parks can be that lazy...), but is it rougher? What's the deal, exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 ^ IMO, Scream! rattles more and it's got a parking lot! I give Medusa East a bonus point for atmosphere. --Robb "You also forgot Medusa West." Alvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiCoastal Kid Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 ^It has speed rattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Posted April 8, 2005 Author Share Posted April 8, 2005 ^ IMO, Scream! rattles more and it's got a parking lot! I give Medusa East a bonus point for atmosphere. --Robb "You also forgot Medusa West." Alvey I know personally, I find parking lots quite scream worthy. And I, uh, didn't forget Medusa West. They're both listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 ^ LOL! So you did! Weird...I even went back and looked at my ranking where I totally skipped it over, and added it again!!! --Robb "It was a long day at work!" Alvey :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterzak Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 Oh no! Don't forget Dominator! Glad to see so many people have given that coaster such a good review. I am not as well ridden on the Floorless coasters so I didn't know it ranked quite that high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 ^ Yeah, Knight Flight is still my favorite of the Floorless coasters. Or at least it was. I haven't been on it since 2003, so I haven no idea if it runs the same as it did in it's Six Flags days. --Robb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemesis-storm Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 I've only been on 2 B&M floorless coasters, Superman @ WBMW Madrid & Batman: Knight Flight / Dominator. Batman KF is slightly better than Superman in my view I've only been on :- 1 B&M Flyer - AIR 1 B&M Dive Coaster - Oblivion 1 B&M Stand Up - Mantis 1 B&M Hyper - Silver Star Been on 2 sit downs ... Kumba & Dragon Khan, I prefer Dragon Khan more. Of all the inverteds I have put them in the order I like them Katun Nemesis Nemesis Inferno Raptor Batman's Not been on that many really hopefully after our trip to the USA, the list will be a little longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canobie Fan Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 Im lazy... SO im just doing my best/worst not all... Inverts: Best - Topgun The Jet Coaster Worst - Fire Dragon Mega Coasters: only been on Apollo's Chariot (but I love it) Stand-Ups: Best - Georgia Scorcher Worst - Vortex Carowinds Floorless: Best - Kraken Worst - Batman The Dark Knight Sit-Down: Best - Kumba Worst - Incredible Hulk Flyers: WORST - Superman: Ultimate Flight yeah.... thats my list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey G. Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Stand-up Iron Wolf C- Vortex (PC) D+ Mantis B Chang B+ Riddler's Revenge A Georgia Scorcher A- Inverted Batman/Batman/etc. A- Raptor/Orochi A- Montu A Alpengeist B+ Great Bear B- Top Gun: The Jet Coaster A- Dueling Dragons (Fire) A- Dueling Dragons (Ice) B Talon B Sit-down Incredible Hulk B Mega Coasters Apollo's Chariot A+ Raging Bull A- Nitro B Floorless Coasters Medusa East B Scream! C+ Batman: Knight Flight (refuse to call it)Dominator A Kraken A+ Batman: The Dark Knight B- Flying Coasters Superman: Ultimate Flight (SFoG) B cause it has a tunnel Superman: Ultimate Flight (GAm, GrAdv) B- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Freefall (thats me) says: you have many near misses against the ground, the station or even the rivers of blood After putting up this post I checked out robs free video clip of nemesis and was upset to see that in your recording the rivers of blood are just water now they must have ran out of people to sacrifice If it's Robb's Alton Towers video, then I believe that that was at least 2/3 years ago. Nemesis did go through a pretty bad time where a lot of the theming stopped working and got a bit neglected, however I'm happy to say that since the beginning of this season, it's all looking lovely again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Yep, Nemesis is looking a lot more picturesque this year. Shame about the rest of the park! As for best B&Ms categorywise, I've not been on enough to say - USA 2006 should sort that out somewhat. I can't imagine too many Inverted Coasters will better Nemesis, but I am looking forward to the Superman Flyers and Shakira down at Busch Gardens Tampa. Here's a brief review of the smallest B&M coaster ever built, from a Christmastime trip in 2004... **EUROPEAN COASTER SPOILER FOR ROBB & ELISSA COMING UP - IT'S NOT LIKE I DIDN'T WARN YOU!** I finally got to ride my first floorless coaster, Daemonen at Tivoli Gardens last December. For a small ride it packs a big punch, especially through the Immelman loop and the zero-G roll. The pop of airtime before the brake run is also a nice surprise. It was a great move for Tivoli Gardens. The ride very short, but it's not a problem. Aesthetically pleasing from start to finish, and for those lucky enough to go on it around the yuletide season, it's even better to ride it in the snow! B&M once again prove that size doesn't always matter, it's what you do with it that counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Force_4_ever Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Since everyone else is grading the coasters I guess I will to... Stand Ups: Iron Wolf: C- Mantis B Inverts: Batman the Ride: B+ Raptor: A Hyper: Raging Bull: A Flyer: Superman- Ultimate Flight: B- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugged One Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Stand-up Iron Wolf: D Vortex (PC): B- Mantis: C+ Chang: C+ Riddler's Revenge: B Georgia Scorcher: B+ Inverted Batman/Batman/etc.: A Raptor: B+ Montu: A- Alpengeist: B+ Great Bear: B Top Gun: The Jet Coaster: B+ Dueling Dragons (Fire): A Dueling Dragons (Ice): B+ Talon: B Sit-down Kumba: A+ Incredible Hulk: A Wildfire: A Mega Coasters Apollo's Chariot: A Raging Bull: B Nitro: B+ Floorless Coasters Medusa East: B Kraken: A Batman: The Dark Knight: B- Batman: Knight Flight/Dominator: B Flying Coasters Superman: Ultimate Flight (All 3): B What can I say, I love Beemers! The only ones that really piss me off sometimes are some of the stand-ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movieguy Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 I haven't been on too many Beemers, but I'll rate the ones I HAVE been on: Inverted: Raptor: A Alpengeist: A- Stand Up Mantis: B- Mega Coaster Apollo's Charriot: A+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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