Retro_Gaga Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 After using the search I could find nothing on the subject. Has B&M ever actually made or tried to make a wooden coaster? Someone told me that the Psyclone's trains at SFMM were made by B&M?
Calicoasters Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 Psyclone's trains are indeed made by B&M. They are now used for Colossus Backwards every October.
Retro_Gaga Posted September 10, 2009 Author Posted September 10, 2009 Psyclone's trains are indeed made by B&M. They are now used for Colossus Backwards every October. Oh wow, are they good, because I heard Psyclone wasn't exactly the smoothest ride around.
cooksta77 Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 Psyclone's trains are indeed made by B&M. They are now used for Colossus Backwards every October. Oh wow, are they good, because I heard Psyclone wasn't exactly the smoothest ride around. Well the Northridge quake in 1994 kind of screwed that ride up if I'm correct. So it's probably not the trains. Andrew "A B&M Woodie " Iorio
Hercules Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 B&M has said many times that they will be sticking with steel as it is what they do best, and they don't want to mess up their model. They don't feel there is a need to branch out and make things too complicated.
coasterfan21 Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 ^Ya I agree that they really don't need to branch out. In my opinion they have mastered the art of building inverted coasters. Still it would be really interesting to see what they could come up with if they tried.
Bolliger&Mabillard Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 Prehaps they could conceive a woodie that dwarfs El Toro...One could dream...
hyyyper Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 I would like B&M to make the first wood-multi-looper.
Team Thriller Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 Or the worlds first stand up wooden coaster... --James
coasterfan21 Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 ^ Oh I can feel the pain from here lol.
Miltonmx Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 Hmmm... interesting. A wooden coaster with 4 seats in a row trains. EXTREME!!!
Sir Clinksalot Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 Yes, the 1994 earthquake had a LOT to do with Psyclones demise. It was AWESOME before that. But the weight of the B&M trains probably had as much to do with the rides demise as the quake. Those were some heavy ass trains and the ride probably would have gotten bad with or without the quake. At least IMO. The fact that the trains have also torn the hell out of Colossus should be sufficient enough to support that.
ginzo Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 Going by the numbers of installations, the steel coaster market is at least 10x bigger than the wooden coaster market. And there are already three very strong players in wood: GCII, Gravity Group, and Intamin. I'm not really sure what B&M would have to add to this as it has become very apparent that high end, over-engineered woodies, like the Intamin woodies, do not sell all that well. And I can't see B&M doing anything other than some sort of pre-fabricated system because you can't get the same quality control with traditional carpentry methods.
hobbit Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 a floorless, diving, standup, inverted woody .... no B&M is not from woody's, to be in the woody competition, they must build some "other" wooden rollercoaster, and what kind of wooden rollercoasters do we want? and i dont like perfect smooth woody's....
sixflagsguy5 Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 But the weight of the B&M trains probably had as much to do with the rides demise as the quake. Those were some heavy A$$ trains and the ride probably would have gotten bad with or without the quake. Yeah. B&M are known for having very heavy trains. This works just fine with a steel coaster, because the track and structure isn't going to move very much over time. Wooden coasters are much different though. Wood is a very unique material, especially when used on coasters. Being in the California sun for all those years probably didn't help with the smoothness of the ride.
hobbit Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 well, B&M can make light trains no, B&M will not make woody's....
WFChris Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 To answer the question asked a while ago, I thought the Psyclone trains are GREAT on Colossus backwards!!! I recall it being a very smooth, and fast ride. We had the pleasure of trains (ZOMG!) being raced, and while it took considerably longer for the B&M to get up the lift hill, we zipped passed the normal train in no time and beat them by a mile! Chris.
DBru Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 What are the restraints like on the Psyclone train?
metrock Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 If B&M made a wooden coaster, it would be as smooth as the Intamin woodies, but with fewer forces than a GCI.
Bolliger&Mabillard Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 ^^Pretty much your standard wooden coaster lap bar with one par attached to the side of the train.
Capitalize Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 If B&M made a wooden coaster, it would be as smooth as the Intamin woodies, but with fewer forces than a GCI. Plenty of floater air, though.
ebl Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 "But the weight of the B&M trains probably had as much to do with the ride's demise..." (SirClinksalot) Actually, Tim Burkhart has said that the trains' weight wasn't as much a factor in Psyclone's ultimate fate as the poorly built structure was. Eric
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