spacemtfan Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 On my last visit (11-24-2009), when I waiting for them to get the ride back up after it temporarily went 101, I couldn't help but notice that most rockets had about 1-3 empty seats...and seeing as how this ride sees long wait times on an almost daily basis, it got me thinking... ... ...why isn't there a single ride line for Space Mountain? It would be perfect if they decided to add a single-rider line to Space Mountain? It would provide people going to ride by themselves a short wait. Now, I told this to a cast member, but she said that it would be impossible to add one 'due to operational matters'. I always figured that a single-rider line would work if single riders would enter through the exit, similar to how the handicap board the attraction. But instead of using the seperate loading station, they would wait by the front of the line until they are called. I don't see any flaws with it, but then again, I don't fully understand how the attraction's boarding procedures work. What does everyone else think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Disneylander Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Probably because the exit is so far removed from the entrance; people may get confused: Guest: excuse me, where's the SR line? CM: well, you have to go all the way back, take a left at Honey, I Shrunk the Audience, then take another right, go past the Starcade, go straight, then take another right, head past the photo booth, and the line starts there. Guest: *head explodes* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeoplemoverMatt Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 ow, I told this to a cast member, but she said that it would be impossible to add one 'due to operational matters'. She would be correct. Those 'operational matters' is really one matter - how long the CMs have in order to unload/load/dispatch each train. They are constantly under the gun because should they fail & the train not dispatch in time, the ride literally shuts itself down. It would be cruel to expect a CM to operate a Single Rider line under the clock they have there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Hong Kong Disneyland's Space Mountain has a single rider line that works awesome. I don't think it's an 'operational issue' at all. Just need the queue setup for it and competent employees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpenguy Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Heh, dispatch interval isn't an issue. Space Mountain has a strict, measured and ride system enforced weight limit on each train. Sometimes there need to be empty seats to make it. 12 football players? A row is getting pulled out at dispatch or everyone is going to the left and getting regrouped the hard way. Now think about who mostly uses single rider lines (AP's)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacemtfan Posted November 29, 2009 Author Share Posted November 29, 2009 ^ I completely forgot that the ride also has a weight limit! The way you put it makes sense, but like Elissa says, the Space Mountain in Hong Kong Disneyland has a single-rider line, and for the most part it works pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartnz Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 I remember thinking the Space Mountain ops were complete dicks, then reading on the internet the way the ride works. Now I just feel sorry for them How is the Hong Kong version of the ride different in terms of station operation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Disneylander Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 ^ It's a complete clone of the DL version. Just a smaller (way smaller) station. Dispatch intervals, I believe, would be the same. On a sidenote, the SM Cast Members do a helluva job. The ride has possibly the fastest dispatch intervals I've ever seen, and yet every train is full! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Thrill Dragster Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Hong Kong Disneyland Space Mountain loads and un loads in separate areas of the station. And I bet the stations queue is bigger and more organized allowing for Single rider grouping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro_Gaga Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 How does this ride work exactly from an ride op pov. It seems like you'd need really heavy training just to load the train in the time frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 ^ Huh? Have you been there? Did you read this thread? I think it was already posted that the Hong Kong version has a much SMALLER station. Disneyland's Space Mountain can easily have a single rider line if they felt it needed one. I've seen rides with equally fast dispatch times use a single rider line. It has more to do with how the people are grouped. Have you ever watched MiB's operations? They have a counter on the wall that tells them how fast they need to dispatch each car. (I believe it's 15 seconds) and they seem to be able to handle a standby line, express line, and single rider line with (what appears to be) little difficulty. From an operations point of view, it entirelly possible that it could be done. Maybe not "easily" but it could absoultely be done, and the ops would be trained to work it into their routine. --Robb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Rosenzweig Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 ^ Huh? Have you been there? Did you read this thread? I think it was already posted that the Hong Kong version has a much SMALLER station. Disneyland's Space Mountain can easily have a single rider line if they felt it needed one. I've seen rides with equally fast dispatch times use a single rider line. It has more to do with how the people are grouped. Have you ever watched MiB's operations? They have a counter on the wall that tells them how fast they need to dispatch each car. (I believe it's 15 seconds) and they seem to be able to handle a standby line, express line, and single rider line with (what appears to be) little difficulty. From an operations point of view, it entirelly possible that it could be done. Maybe not "easily" but it could absoultely be done, and the ops would be trained to work it into their routine. --Robb From my experience traveling around and observing general operations, single rider lines are usually useless on any attraction with two across seating (or to a lesser extent, four across). The even number tends to lend itself to less open seats per cycle. At WDW, all you need to do is see how perfectly the single rider line works on Test Track (3 across) where seemingly every other car needs a single or two to join two other random couples who want to sit next to each other. Then for the polar opposite, stand in the stand still mess of a single rider line at R&RC or Everest. The single rider line on Toy Story Midway Mania barely lasted a month due to this very reason (and not the "guest confusion" issue which WDW PR would rather you believe). Could be wrong, just my 1.5 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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