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Postby cfc » Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:28 am

From Amusement Today:

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The Big Bad Wolf Lives Again!

Future exhibit dedicated to the design and development of the innovative ride will be developed (Nov 19, 2009) –Who’s afraid of the Big Bad Wolf?

The National Roller Coaster Museum is hopeful, thanks to a generous donation by the management team of Busch Gardens Europe in Williamsburg, future generations will learn what it was like to “travel at the speed of fright.”

The museum will take possession of an original train, track section, sign package and accompanying support materials for the NRCMA permanent collection. “This is an incredible addition to the Museum collection,” Gary Slade, NRCMA Board Chairman said. “When the ride closed on September 7, 2009, it was the oldest operating suspended coaster – and certainly one of the best. We want to thank the leadership team at Busch Gardens Europe for their gift.”

The Big Bad Wolf was originally added to Busch Gardens’ Oktoberfest section of the park in 1984. The project was originally a Schwarzkopf designed flying coaster but after 75 percent completion, the project was turned over to Arrow Dynamics. The “suspended swinging coaster” operated until Sept. 7, 2009 when contest winners rode The Big Bad Wolf for the last time at 8:42 p.m.

“We’re honored that the NRCMA wants to add The Big Bad Wolf to their collection,” said John Reilly, Busch Gardens’ general manager. “It entertained millions of our guests over the years and now will now serve as a reminder for future generations of what the ride meant to the history of the industry.”

“The Big Bad Wolf is historically significant in the industry because of its place in the lineage of steel rollercoaster design,” Richard Munch, American Coaster Enthusiasts founder and NRCMA historian said.


I hope that the museum can provide a good home for this important piece of BGW's history--I wish them well.
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Postby pkdcoaster » Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:44 pm

Glad to hear they will save the trains.

Anybody seen pics on the de-construction yet?

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Postby Squid » Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:45 am

Waitaminute... a Schwarzkopf flying coaster? Could they have dusted off some old plans and are having B&M build a new version of that ride?

Not to mention the mysterious track that's been lying around the B&M plant for some time.

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Postby cfc » Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:11 am

^Hmm--doubtful.

The old story was that Arrow built BBW based on a Schwartzkopf design, but it's a bit murky. This story has been kicking around for some time (RCDB lists only Arrow Dynamics as the ride's builder).

Schwartzkopf had developed some sort of "flying coaster," but never got the chance to finish it (it may have been meant for Busch Gardens).

I'll bow to those who are better at coaster history than me.
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Postby B-RadG » Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:25 am

Mainly what happened is that Schwarzkopf designed Big Bad Wolf, poured the footers, provided some supports, and went bankrupt. Then Arrow had to find a way to design it to fit the supports and footers.

Schwarzkopf Alpenflug was the name of the model it was supposed to be, and if I'm correct Schwarzkopf called it a "Flying" coaster not a Suspended coaster.

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Postby Squid » Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:16 am

Okay, that makes sense. It's still a huge shame that BBW is coming down. The wife and I really love that coaster! It's nice to see that part of that coaster will be preserved, but to me it just doesn't compare to riding it again and again.

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Postby QueerRudie » Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:21 am

Here's something that I found interesting- from Schwartzkopf.Coaster.net

http://schwarzkopf.coaster.net/ESflugbahnGF.htm

This site, BTW, is one of the -finest- repositories for anything from Herr Achterbahn's life. Some of the pictures and models are amazing to see- and this might explain some of the different types of attractions- including the 'Flying' Coaster (Aptly named when you see the pictures).

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Postby Tmcdllr » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:55 pm

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This "flying coaster" looks very familiar. Looks like a suspended version of Revolution minus the OTSRs.
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Postby cfc » Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:37 pm

Here's another interesting article with information on the history of the suspended coaster: http://www.coasterglobe.com/features/history-suspended/.

I remember reading about Messerschmitt's suspended coaster (and how it failed because of safety concerns) back when I was in high school.
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Postby TheRapidsNerd » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:50 am

This could be very good all around. The coaster museum gets a major coaster display/shot in the arm, and the Wolf gets a new honored place in history. This was a good move on BGE's part.

Dorkiness kicking in here, I hope that part of the display shows where the section of track comes from. Doubtful, but it just adds something.

Hey, I'm glad to see the coaster museum rolling forward. That's good news too.

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