RIP Psyclone Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 During its last few years, Arrow started using a type of track that resembles Morgan track: Thanks to Joe Schwartz for the picture! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xChris125x Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Wow, I never noticed that. Interesting. What I'm wondering is how they plan on mounting the track to the old Arrow scaffold supports. I don't see any connection points on the track pieces that have been delivered thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_e219 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I just drove past Kennywood today, they have removed the flat of track section between the first two drops, as well as about a third of the first drop of the Phantom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Now the whole first drop is gone. Wouldn't it be cool if they cut up the old track and sold parts on eBay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennyweird Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I wonder what the people driving down Kennywood Boulevard are thinking. "Oh my god! They're tearing down the Phantom!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdillaman Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 ^ "Times must be really tough, I heard they sold it for scrap metal money!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dailey Enterprizes Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Odd little tidbit, the original plans for that straight-away was that Morgan was going to put a bunny-hopper in there, but then it was scrapped, noting that the speed would be reduced, and KW didn't want that. Wonder if they're actually going to put this in after all, since the speed wars are pretty much over in this type of a coaster. Just a thought. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. It would be pretty sweet to have that bunny hop in there. There's never too much airtime... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jds03 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Well, I'm glad phantom is getting some care, but then again i don't think this was absolutely necessary from a rider standpoint when i rode it this summer. Maybe it was structural problems with the track, and rust or something. If not i think I'd rather see them save their money... or make more phantom air hills! hahah could you imagine that? Three major layout changes on one coaster. How awesome would that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennyweird Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Someone over at Kennywood Connection said they're replacing the old Arrow track because it's a maintenance headache. If you compare a section of Arrow track with a section of Morgan track, you'll see the Arrow track has something like 100 welds per segment, whereas the Morgan track is basically one solid piece. If you have 100 welds, that also means you have 100 potential failure points. Add that to the fact that the track is close to 20 years old, and you can see why Kennywood wants to replace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jslim39 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Someone over at Kennywood Connection said they're replacing the old Arrow track because it's a maintenance headache. If you compare a section of Arrow track with a section of Morgan track, you'll see the Arrow track has something like 100 welds per segment, whereas the Morgan track is basically one solid piece. If you have 100 welds, that also means you have 100 potential failure points. Add that to the fact that the track is close to 20 years old, and you can see why Kennywood wants to replace it. if they're replacing the old track due to maintnence issues, and nothing more, that highly shoots down the possibility for any added elements or layout modifications. but the good side is, Morgan track is very smooth, and the PR's first drop was already smooth, so it can only get better. Plus it'll look really nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenDen Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 Actually, they're reverting it back to the original layout. Oh My Gawd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jslim39 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 haha, if only they were. i know it was rough, but i'd actually like that in a way...... never got to ride SP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillgeek Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Glad to see an old classic get refurbished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electerik Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Odd little tidbit, the original plans for that straight-away was that Morgan was going to put a bunny-hopper in there, but then it was scrapped, noting that the speed would be reduced, and KW didn't want that. I thought the original plan was for the ascent to the top of the second hill to be a double up. (But I could be wrong.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MixedDrink Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Great to hear it's getting some care! I really need to ride Phantom, the crappy arcade coaster simulator probably doesn't give it much justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenDen Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 Odd little tidbit, the original plans for that straight-away was that Morgan was going to put a bunny-hopper in there, but then it was scrapped, noting that the speed would be reduced, and KW didn't want that. I thought the original plan was for the ascent to the top of the second hill to be a double up. (But I could be wrong.) Actually, your description is more accurate. The bunny-hopper was to end higher than it started, flowing into the second hill. The design though would have pretty much eliminated the straight-away since it was a pretty big double-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastn07 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Well, I'm glad phantom is getting some care, but then again i don't think this was absolutely necessary from a rider standpoint when i rode it this summer. Maybe it was structural problems with the track, and rust or something. If not i think I'd rather see them save their money... or make more phantom air hills! hahah could you imagine that? Three major layout changes on one coaster. How awesome would that be? You have to take into account that this is steel we're talking about and steel is nowhere near immune to structural stress. This is the same track that has been used since 1991. That is almost 18 years of use and 18 years of stress being put on that one section. From the rider standpoint it might not seem like the ride needed it, but if Kennywood is spending the money to have this whole section of track replaced, they had to have had a very valid reason to do so. I'm sure the maintenance and the longevity of the ride were the two main reason behind the move. It's just to bad the park isn't taking advantage of this opportunity to enhance the ride even further, like adding that tunnel that never happened or even the bunny hop Morgan initially had planned for this coaster. The coaster could also use a fresh coat of paint and the station could definitely use A LOT of work. But I guess there's only so much you can do in one offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennyweird Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Kennywood president to resign Some people over at KWC think this sounds a little fishy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastn07 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 The people over at Kennywood Connection are always looking for conspiracy involving the Parques Reunidos purchase. They just can't accept the fact that the two families let greed blind them and sold a park that has been in their possession for the past 100 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenDen Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 ^I have to agree. Thats why I never post there. Everything is a conspiracy to destroy their lives or something. Not to mention, they never post any "hot" news. P.S. They officially put the Bayern Kurve on the "New of 09" page at Kennywood.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dailey Enterprizes Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 ^ I can't post there even if I wanted to. My account mysteriously disappeared a long time ago and I can't make a new one because my email is still in their system. Strange... Well the amusement park business is just that; a business, and the management at Kennywood has changed many times in its 110 year history. Kennywood is evolving, like a good traditional park does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowaymang Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 P.S. They officially put the Bayern Kurve on the "New of 09" page at Kennywood.com. This is not a repeat from prior years! *lol* How many times can that ride be new?!? I liked it many moons ago when the ride-ops also DJ'd the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennyweird Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 I decided to go down to Kennywood today and see what's going on with Wipeout and the Phantom's Revenge for myself. While I was there, I took some pictures. Consider them a Christmas present of sorts. Oh, in case you're wondering, the Phantom's track gauge is about 48.5 inches. (Yes, I did measure it, how nerdy of me. ) Edit: Sorry, moderators, I made the pictures a tad big. Even Santa likes the Phantom's Revenge. Merry Christmas! Another view of the trackless first drop. ^ ...which has been unceremoniously cut up with an acetylene torch. The old, rusty, dejected Arrow track... They still need to remove the top of the second hill. The Wipeout is all packed up and ready to leave Kennywood. The mounting brackets for the new track are in place. ^ The closest view of the new track to date! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Nicky Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Great photos. The coaster hasn't had a first drop since the beginning of November so lets hope they get that track up soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speeddeamon128 Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Great pics! Hopefully Phantom's Revenge will be smoother if that is what the park is trying to do. The ride was smooth to me when I rode it in June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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