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Postby montezooma » Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:26 am

willh51 wrote:I do love Vekoma...

That model of the Whirlwind got me wondering if it was originally designed to run two trains since there is a storage track in the model. I've only ridden the now defunct one at Knoebels, but I don't think I've seen pictures of any other Whirlwind with 2 trains, either.


WOW, great eye. I went back and looked at the pictures of the Whirlwind model and figured out that they are from two different years. The first picture clearly shows a transfer track and two trains on the model. The second picture is from a later year and both the transfer track and the second train have been removed from the model.

They must have planned on selling the ride with two trains and then decided it was more of a one train ride.
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Here you can see the transfer track and two green trains on the ride. One in the corkscrew and one in the station.
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The following year the transfer track has been removed and only one train, which is now red, is on the lift.
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Postby Cygnus12 » Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:43 am

robaroo723 wrote:I actually remember riding Vekoma's Canyon Trip at Morey's Piers. It was a strange ride ... never inverted, but still had OTSRs. I think it only lasted a season or two, if I'm not mistaken.


YES! I remember the Canyon Trip at Moreys as well! I never rode it as I was about 5 or 6 at the time, but its image, and horrible noise that it made, are something I never forgot.

There was a ride down at Busch Gardens Europe (back when it was Williamsburg) called Gladiators Gauntlet. That was also a Vekoma Canyon Trip.

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Postby montezooma » Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:26 am

I rode that Gladiator's Gauntlet at Busch Gardens. It was in the Italian section.

I loved that ride, I thought it was a cool fit and quite a spectacular ride to watch. It was really fun to see the other half of the platform split away from you then come rushing back at you.

Not sure how long this ride was at the park or why it was removed. Anyone have the story?
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The Loch Ness Monster

Postby montezooma » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:26 am

Arrow Dynamics presents...
The Legend of the Loch Ness Monster


Today in Shane's Retro VCR is an early video from Arrow Dynamics.

Probablly the 2nd best know coaster of the early steel coaster revolution was the Loch Ness Monster.(the first, of course, was the Revolution) Arrow Dynamics first venture into the custom coaster arena wa a huge hit and to this day is still one of their best creations. That fact should probablly be credited to Busch Gardens for keeping it running so well over the last thirty years.

Here is a promotional video that Arrow used at IAAPA to sell custom coasters. The video was given personally to me by Ron Toomer. Each year as I attended the IAAPA convention as a child I would stop by the Arrow booth and watch their videos. As they were packing up their booth at the end of the show, I passed by and Ron pulled me aside. He noticed my facsination with the rides and he slipped me a copy of this video and also one for the Big Bad Wolf. He sometimes takes a beating in the coaster community for his "bent hanger" designs, but what a great guy his is!

The Loch Ness Monster has my favorite inverted elements...the interlocking loops. It is too bad that this element is underutilized today. There is nothing more visual on a coaster than to see two trains pass through interlocking loops at the same time. Enjoy these great slow motion shots of the Loch Ness Monster and in a couple of days the Big Bad Wolf.

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Re: The Loch Ness Monster

Postby SeaWhippet » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:32 am

Loch Ness is such a timeless ride. The Lair is the only part of the course that doesn't work (for me). I wish Arrow would've added something a bit more thrilling like a couple of speed bumps (like the old GA Turn of The Century clones) through the woods before the second lift. :|

My fav part of that vid -- besides the multiple shots of trains in the loops together -- was that rockin' 70s Shaft/porn flick soundtrack! ;)

Hey, I think I saw myself in one of those clips!

And Shane, I agree that Ron T. is a great guy. I've known him for years. I actually got a great interview with him last fall where he talks about a number of things including Arrow's failed Flying Turns and taking over Big Bad Wolf for our other pal, Anton.

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Re: The Loch Ness Monster

Postby montezooma » Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:19 pm

SeaWhippet wrote:I actually got a great interview with him last fall where he talks about a number of things including Arrow's failed Flying Turns and taking over Big Bad Wolf for our other pal, Anton.

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Where can I find that interview? I would love to know more about how Big Bad Wolf fell out of Schwarzkopf hands and into Arrows.
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Postby RonFrost » Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:52 pm

In the realm of "coaster porn", two trains looping simultaneously is definitely the "money shot"!

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Postby Olsor » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:30 pm

So much win in just one little video. The slow motion, the porn music, the Arrow propaganda. It's wonderful.

I have a feeling this will turn into a Ron Toomer love/apology thread. I wanted to BE Ron Toomer when I was growing up. Well, not the not-riding-his-own-rides part, but the wire-bending, coaster-designing part. Arrows beat the hell out of me these days, but I still love 'em. Their design is so quintessentially late '70s/early '80s. Those rides stand as monuments to a leap in design technology. While B&Ms and Intamins are smoother, I don't think there's anything cooler-looking than an old-school Arrow.

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Postby NewsPlusNotes » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:48 pm

Another awesome video. And RonFrost's comparison to coaster porn was perfect as the video's music alone made me think in that direction...

It was really cool to see onride footage of trains going through both loops at the same time. That was a first for my eyes!

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Re: The Loch Ness Monster

Postby SeaWhippet » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:51 pm

montezooma wrote:
SeaWhippet wrote:I actually got a great interview with him last fall where he talks about a number of things including Arrow's failed Flying Turns and taking over Big Bad Wolf for our other pal, Anton.


Where can I find that interview?


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...Actually, I taped the whole thing. Ron and I talked about a potential book about Arrow Development and its later incarnations (Huss/Dynamics). We discussed that and many other things. He really is a living encyclopedia of industry info as well as a true gentleman. Quite amazing. I hope one day to see this project come to fruition.

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