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Postby thecoasterkid » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:35 pm

^^ That's exactly what I was thinking. The longer you're traveling the more friction you're encountering, and then the slower you would go.

It was all a VERY sarcastic comment anyway meant to poke fun at the the whole angle and trims debates that started this whole thing. You're not going to notice on that first drop if you're going 75 or 85 degrees, so in no way does it matter. And no one knows the extent to which the trims are going to be used yet, so let's save that one for when previews start too.

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Postby clewis4u » Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:46 pm

Here's an amazing video update (no, I did not help edit or film this, I'm just posting it!): http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc7ti3pg9Ws

Watch the whole thing, it's certainly worth it!

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Postby dandaman » Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:53 pm

^Aah, what lovely traffic on the 400. :lol:

*whistles*... Nice footage. Beemer fanboys are probably creaming their jeans right now, even without the trains!

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Postby clewis4u » Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:27 pm

So what do you guys think of the video?

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Postby PURE » Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:43 pm

Thanks for the link, nice shots and I dig the tunes!

Here's why it doesn't matter which angle the ride falls at, its the overall height that effect the speed.

MF at Cedar Point has a drop of 300 feet and hits 93 MPH while MM's Goliath is 255 feet and hits 85.

As you can see, regardless of the angles of the drops (which are substantially different (Goliath at 61 degrees and MF at 80 degrees)) the top speed to height of the drop ratios are pretty consistent with one another. It goes to show that degree of drop really has no outcome on the overall speed of the coaster.

MForce 93/300 =.31 as compared to
Goliath 85/255 =.33

Factors that come into play with the differences in these numbers could be the "stall" at the top of Goliath's drop, as opposed to the "push" you get at the top of MF because it doesn't slow down.

I mean, there's a lot of factors, but you can see how consistent the rides are with the laws of gravity.
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Postby saxman47 » Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:09 am

as you go higher and higher the maximum speed will increase at a slower rate due to the fact that wind resistance increases according to the velocity squared.

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Postby hemmy » Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:15 am

Carnage wrote:
hemmy wrote:
kraken613 wrote:^
LOL!
This thing is going to be a good coaster no matter what. What B&M isnt good? They might not all be great but they are all good!


Iron Wolf, Mantis, etc...


Both stand ups. Stand ups are an uncomfortable fad.

You really don't see any bad sit down B&Ms. Some are better then others obviously, but even an average B&M is going to be better then most of the competition.


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Stand ups ARE the dumbest gimmick in the history modern of roller coasters.

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Postby Screamomatic » Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:04 pm

Definatly not, stand-up coasters is totally a gimmick but it's still cool, no matter how uncomfortable it is, it never really bother me, but i tend not to complain.

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Postby Carnage » Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:09 pm

hemmy wrote:Stand ups ARE the dumbest gimmick in the history modern of roller coasters.


Most uncomfortable, maybe.

But I wouldn't say dumbest. The concept itself is good, it just doesn't work out all that well in most cases.

I could think of many gimmicks which were "dumber" then the standup coaster.
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Postby coolhandluke » Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:32 pm

Carnage wrote:
hemmy wrote: I could think of many gimmicks which were "dumber" then the standup coaster.

Like putting 4 inline twists in a row and then another one right after a little turn to breaak double digit inversion counts, perhaps? Or a steel loop in a wooden coaster? Might these be some "gimmicks" to which you are referring?

'Cause if they are, I totally agree.

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