Comprehensive Coaster Credit Conversation

[cfcI've gone pantless!]

I count the old Motorcycle Chase and Wacky Soapbox Racers separately, because the switch from cycles to soapbox cars changed the ride experience quite a bit.

^^ Personally, I wouldn't count his coasters. I'd ride them and have fun on them, sure. But I wouldn't put them on my personal list. Any ride that could be closed because the dude "isn't home", isn't a countable roller coaster to me!

I know it sounds crazy, but like, a guy who has a keg in his basement, isn't an actual "bar", if you know what I mean. (I'd call him a really cool friend!)

^ Ahh, Wacky Box/Cycle Chase. I rode them both as well, and I know many people who actually count them as "8 coasters" (Hi Jeff Johnson), but I actually only count that whole ride as 1.

But to each their own, really....

[Sir ClinksalotBitch Please!]

I agree with Robb with one exception ... Disneyland's Space Mountain.

IMO, it's an entirely new coaster, even though it's the same spot. Cloned coasters count, so IMO this is just a clone of the original Space Mountain, it just so happens to be in the same spot.

But other than that, I agree with Robb as far as things like Superman (counts as 2, not 4 now that it goes backwards), Colossus (counts as 2, not 3 since I've ridden it backwards), etc, etc.

I also wish I counted relocated coasters, because I'd be much closer to 200 now.

But at the end of the day, does it REALLY matter? Sure I keep track, it's easy when your count is as low as mine.

[XYZA village is missing its IDIOT!]

My system of seeing if it is a credit is if it's in RCDB plus traveling coasters. I count racing coasters as one credit since it shares the same enterance, shares most of the queue, and most of the time shares the same structure. If the coaster is not part of commercial property, I don't count it as a coaster and I won't ride a coaster in somebody's backyard because of safety issues. I count relocated coasters as one credit, so I tell everyone I rode Stinger before the ride opened even though I never stepped foot in Dorney Park since I rode it in CGA.

^^ But it's not an entirely "new" coaster, it's an entirely "exact same coaster as it was since 1977", just the equipment is new. Again, it doesn't matter because there are no rules, but the Space Mountain example is one I would absolutely find as questionable. It's like I said, drop a new engine into your car and tell KBB your car is new. I look at it exactly the same way. When your average guest, who hadn't visited the park in 5 years, wouldn't be able to tell the difference, it doesn't count again. Had they added a loop, backwards section, or does something significant to the ride, I'd give it to you, but re-building the exact same ride? Sorry. I mean, Lake Compounce re-built Wildcat from the ground up in 1986 and no one even noticed! So if that doesn't count as two, why should Space Mountain?

Seriously, if the re-build of Space Mountain wasn't so heavily publicized, would people even know?

Sorry, just my random observation....

[beatle11I prefer to mate with donkeys over humans!]

So if you touch a Boomerang or SLC, does it count as a credit, assuming you have ridden at least one somewhere?

[rctneilDonkeys are my way of life!]

Overall I'm not terribly bothered about counting the coasters, much rather enjoy riding them as that's what they are there for, not for counting.

I do keep a general count though and a few slight changes from Robbs' thoughts above:

dual tracks: If the tracks are entirely separate, I would say count as separate (multiple). I know Steeplechase at Blackpool sounds bizarre but that's my take on it. I realise not everyone would agree but i'm not expecting them too.

Mobius Loop layouts eg: Grand National, I would say as one coaster as in effect it is one coaster.

Relocated coasters, I can understand Robbs' thoughts on this but too me, I would look at it from a no coaster enthusiasts point of view and if I rode a coaster at one place and say I have ridden it and then I visit a different park and ride that same coaster, most non enthusiasts would say I've been on one similar to this and would say they have ridden that one so in effect counting it twice. Just my thoughts.

Powered coasters, Everyone calls them powered coasters so why not count them. or just keep them separated. It's not a big deal honestly.

Anyway, I would say a persons coaster count is just an estimate. Everyone seems to get so uptight and argue about how to count coasters but if someone disagrees then fair enough, use your rules for your count and let someone else use their rules. Does it matter? Does it matter if someone has been on more coasters than you? no it doesn't. and anyway, if you have a lower count than others, at least you can say you have more coasters out there left to ride and enjoy for the first time!

Kind regards,
Neil

So if you touch a Boomerang or SLC, does it count as a credit, assuming you have ridden at least one somewhere?

God, I wish!!!!

[larrygatorObsessive Overlord of the TPR Park Index]

I know it sounds crazy, but like, a guy who has a keg in his basement, isn't an actual "bar", if you know what I mean. (I'd call him a really cool friend!)

Best analogy I've seen in a while.

[Sir ClinksalotBitch Please!]

So if you touch a Boomerang or SLC, does it count as a credit, assuming you have ridden at least one somewhere?

God, I wish!!!!

X2 ...

And I do see your point about Space Mtn.. Again, at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter one way or the other.