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Re: The Busch Gardens Williamsburg (BGW) Discussion Thread

Postby ernierocker » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:22 am

BG Noeit Al wrote:. The Maximum Capacity for Christmas Town is like 18K where as during the normal season it is 36K. Big difference there. I wonder why?


Can you access the entire park during Christmas Town? If part of the park is roped off than the maximum capacity would be lower.
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Re: The Busch Gardens Williamsburg (BGW) Discussion Thread

Postby cfc » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:44 am

^Festa Italia, Forest of Fun, and Land of the Dragons are closed, and the only coaster open is Alpengeist. So, I imagine it's an issue of reduced staffing and the desire to keep the park from getting slammed over the holidays (the line for the freakin' penguins can get ridiculous on busy nights).
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Re: The Busch Gardens Williamsburg (BGW) Discussion Thread

Postby BG Noeit Al » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:43 pm

I was being a bit sarcastic with that question :p But, actually if you think of all the places guests can't go during Christmas Town, it seems to be a lot. Here is what I come up with:

Whole Areas Closed:

- Festa Italia
- Sesame Street: Forest of Fun
- Land of Dragons
- Loch Ness Monster Area
- Floating Bridge
- Heart Attack Hill
- Griffon Area
- Jack Hanna's Wild Reserve (except main path)

Ride Queues Closed:

- Loch Ness Monster
- Griffon
- France Sky Ride
- Log Flume
- Apollo's Chariot
- Festa Train Station
- Germany Sky Ride
- Pompeii
- Curse of DarKastle

Anybody think of any thing else? Here is the math problem :devil: During the regular operating season Busch Gardens Williamsburg allows 36K people in their park. If the park lays on approximately 21 acres or 920,847 square feet of 'developed' land, with the above mentioned closed areas, what would be the new limit of people they would allow in the park?

Here is what I am thinking:

Regular Season
Max. Capacity (MC) = 36K
Max. Space (MS) = 920,847 sq. ft.
Person(s) per sq. ft. (P) = ???

MS / MC = P

920,947 / 36,000 = 25.58

25.58 person(s) per sq. ft.

Christmas Town
Max. Capacity (MC) = ???
Max. Space (MS) = ???
Person(s) per sq. ft. (P) = 25.58

MS / MC = P

MS * P = MC

Here is the trick! What is the space during Christmas Town?
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Re: The Busch Gardens Williamsburg (BGW) Discussion Thread

Postby Schotcher » Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:52 pm

So anyone know if the second launch is supposed to be enclosed (in a tunnel) or if it will be outdoors?

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Re: The Busch Gardens Williamsburg (BGW) Discussion Thread

Postby coasterfreak101 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:28 pm

Pretty sure you go down a small dip inside the building off the drop track, then launch as you hit the outside of the building. So the launch is outside, but might start just inside so that you're moving by the time you hit the sunlight again.
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Re: The Busch Gardens Williamsburg (BGW) Discussion Thread

Postby kingadam719 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:47 pm

BG Noeit Al wrote:Anybody think of any thing else? Here is the math problem :devil: During the regular operating season Busch Gardens Williamsburg allows 36K people in their park. If the park lays on approximately 21 acres or 920,847 square feet of 'developed' land, with the above mentioned closed areas, what would be the new limit of people they would allow in the park?

Here is what I am thinking:

Regular Season
Max. Capacity (MC) = 36K
Max. Space (MS) = 920,847 sq. ft.
Person(s) per sq. ft. (P) = ???

MS / MC = P

920,947 / 36,000 = 25.58

25.58 person(s) per sq. ft.

Christmas Town
Max. Capacity (MC) = ???
Max. Space (MS) = ???
Person(s) per sq. ft. (P) = 25.58

MS / MC = P

MS * P = MC

Here is the trick! What is the space during Christmas Town?


Pretty impressive the info you got! I really think that's awesome! But check your units... If its MS/MC it would be MS/MC = 920,847 sq.feet/36,000 people. By doing the conversion you get ~25.58 feet per person. Last time I checked, you can't fit 25 people in one square foot of space ;) You can have one person per ~25 square foot! Seems like a pretty large number if you ask me!

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Re: The Busch Gardens Williamsburg (BGW) Discussion Thread

Postby Hugecoltsfan » Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:45 pm

When is Verbolten suppose be open again. Our marching band spring trip is Virginia Beach on April 20 and were also going to BGE on the 21st.
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Re: The Busch Gardens Williamsburg (BGW) Discussion Thread

Postby BG Noeit Al » Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:06 pm

Hidden Christmas Town Fact - 2 of the penguins Busch Gardens Williamsburg borrowed from SeaWorld died during Christmas Town last year. This is because they were South American penguins and they were put on ice. Which was a poor decision in hindsight.

Ah yes thank you! You are right, 1 person per 25 sq. ft. Also, thanks to my research here is what else I came up with thanks to an area calculator I found via Google:

Whole Areas Closed:

- Festa Italia = 1.5 Acres
- Sesame Street: Forest of Fun = 0.91 Acres
- Land of Dragons = 0.73 Acres
- Loch Ness Monster Area = 0.20 Acres
- Floating Bridge (includes Hear Attack Hill) = 0.53 Acres
- Griffon Area = 0.37 Acres
- Jack Hanna's Wild Reserve (except main path) = 0.97 Acres
- France Sky Ride = 0.10 Acres
- Log Flume = 0.15 Acres
- Festa Train Station = 0.10 Acres
- Germany Sky Ride = 0.12 Acres
- Pompeii = 0.16 Acres
- Curse of DarKastle = 0.22 Acres

**I was counting ride queues, not the entire ride. Some queues I included in the general areas.**

Total Closed Area = 6.06 Acres or 261,360 Sq. Ft.

The original problem:

During the regular operating season Busch Gardens Williamsburg allows 36K people in their park. If the park lays on approximately 21 acres or 920,847 square feet of 'developed' land, with the above mentioned closed areas, what would be the new limit of people they would allow in the park?

Here is what I am thinking:

Regular Season

Max. Capacity (MC) = 36,000
Max. Space (MS) = 920,847 sq. ft.
Sq. Ft. per person (P) = ???

MS / MC = P

920,947 / 36,000 = 25.58

25.58 Sq. Ft. per person

Christmas Town

Max. Capacity (MC) = ???
Max. Space (MS) = 659,487 Sq. Ft. = 920,947 - 261,360
Sq. Ft. per person (P) = 25.58

MS / MC = P

MS / P = MC

659,487 / 25.58 = 25,781.35

So in conclusion, the maximum capacity for Christmas Town should be 25,781.35 people. If each person had 25.58 Sq. Ft. per person which is the approximate space each person has during the regular season.

This is of course basic algebra. If you know algebra this should be a breeze. Now if only I was any good at physics. Also, I did round a lot and use basic generic areas in area calculation so this number is not exact but really dang close! Anyone see any problems let me know and I will try to fix the equation. I know it is not perfect, but it is, like I said, really close.

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Verbolten should open up sometime in April 2012. The park has basically said spring, but a top guy working on the coaster let slip that they plan on it opening in April 2012.

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So I made a mistake! I just edited it, so it should look nicer. Please let me know if I make any more mistakes. This should be the most accurate estimate of capacity ever right down to the decimal point.
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Re: The Busch Gardens Williamsburg (BGW) Discussion Thread

Postby netdvn » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:07 pm

My family's thinking about heading to BGW this weekend. Anybody wanna do a meetup? My dad was thinking Sunday, but it's not 100% confirmed yet.

I'm gonna try to pick up tons of maps to (and take a Verbolten pic or two).
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Re: The Busch Gardens Williamsburg (BGW) Discussion Thread

Postby BG Noeit Al » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:34 pm

netdvn wrote:My family's thinking about heading to BGW this weekend. Anybody wanna do a meetup? My dad was thinking Sunday, but it's not 100% confirmed yet.

I'm gonna try to pick up tons of maps to (and take a Verbolten pic or two).


Netdvn, I will be working all weekend this weekend, if you want to come by and say hi, I will be at one of the Oktoberfest games. I will probably have a ton of maps on me. It is upsetting though. the very first night I didn't have any maps, and the most popular question was, "do you have any maps?" type questions or "do you know the show times?" type questions. Ever sine I hold on to like a dozen. Sadly, I have hardly ever been asked those type questions ever since :(
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