The Knott's Berry Farm (KBF) Discussion Thread

[PALDonkeys are my way of life!]

^Motorbike Racers for the win! (At least I think that was the name)

^^I'm well aware of the charm that used to exist at KBF...then again I'm almost 30! lol

Plus, I think there is enough charm left in Ghost Town, and even Camp Snoopy to hint at what the park might have been like before it became a healthy support beam forest. Right? Right guys?????

[ChrisradJason X versus the Robot Space Donkey!]

I wish people under, let's say 30, would quit talking about Knott's charm, if your in your 20's you didn't experience Knott's charm. I mean the park was totally different when I was a kid, how bout this, if you have not seen 4 different coasters including Xcelerator in that spot, don't talk nostalgia.

My sisters were there in the 80s and can't believe how things have changed over the years. My mother/father remember the park from the 60s!

As long as the chicken dinner restaurant stays, at least some remnants of Ghost Town, the Mine Ride, and Log Ride, I'd be happy. At the same time, audiences/generations evolve with times and expect different forms of entertainment.

Your argument reminds me of kids born in the 90s who pretend to like the 80s (the music/clothing/etc.).

[Jew"It's not small, but it is very 'average.'"]

I wish people under, let's say 30, would quit talking about Knott's charm, if your in your 20's you didn't experience Knott's charm. I mean the park was totally different when I was a kid, how bout this, if you have not seen 4 different coasters including Xcelerator in that spot, don't talk nostalgia.

I don't think that is true. The things I remember most about KBF that are gone now are mostly the "little things" like the mural that used to be in the tunnel, how creepy the church+reflection lake were during haunt, the "original" berry stand/vines, and even the dolphin show! Let alone the bigger attractions I loved like Soap Box Racers, Parachute drop, and the Haunt shack.

But in the present state, it is what it is. There's no turning back at this point, so they might as well keep doing what they are doing: building thrill rides and restoring what they can inside the park to maintain some of that old charm.

[DBJDon't let this donkey melt you with its laser eyes!]

I am confident that Ouimet will be able to guide Knott's and the other CF parks into a great new direction. His Disney/Disneyland track record is quite impressive.

The lack of charm imo comes down to how the coaster installations have been worked into the park. Under prior management, the Knott's coasters just kind of wiped out the charm, and replaced it with nothing. Silver Bullet I think is the most glaring example. The color scheme, q and the station have literally nothing to do with the old west. Yet it is called Silver Bullet. And the impact it had on the outdoor theater? Surely there must have been a better way to intergrate a coaster like SB into the area.

I remember Knott's from back in the day and for the most part, the park's attraction roster has made it a much better park. The loss of character, charm, and theme in parts of the park are unfortunate. However, I have to give Knott's / CF credit for restoring the peak-in's, and the intergration of some of the park's eateries (Panda, Rockets) into their locations.

So I am hoping Ouimet guides CF into the practice of improving on pre-existing charm, and not just turning the parks into a series of basic steel sheds/stations and concrete. My hopes are high.

[djbrcace1234TPR Game Exchange Moderator and RCT/RCT2 hacker]

Went to the park on Thursday, and I have some good news regarding Pony Express. The second train that has been dismantled since October of last year is finally being put back together. It's half way assembled:

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And the Windseeker? More assembly has been taken care of, and the queue line itself is almost complete. The control booth is also up, so not much physical construction appears to be made, besides placing ride vehicles, and resurfacing the entrance by Jaguar.

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[PALDonkeys are my way of life!]

Any guesses when Xcellerator will be back to 2 train ops? On Thurs the second train was on the transfer with the shell off the front car.

Still steamed some fool stole my kid's shoes at Soak City. No, I don't blame the park one bit. Some people.

[metrockthe ghost seems to think there is a "Donkey Fairy"]

I wish people under, let's say 30, would quit talking about Knott's charm, if your in your 20's you didn't experience Knott's charm. I mean the park was totally different when I was a kid, how bout this, if you have not seen 4 different coasters including Xcelerator in that spot, don't talk nostalgia.

I don't think that is true. The things I remember most about KBF that are gone now are mostly the "little things" like the mural that used to be in the tunnel, how creepy the church+reflection lake were during haunt, the "original" berry stand/vines, and even the dolphin show! Let alone the bigger attractions I loved like Soap Box Racers, Parachute drop, and the Haunt shack.

Ah, yes. How true it is, Joey. I do miss all those things you mentioned. To add to that list, I'm gonna give a shout out to XK-1. I loved going upside down on it for as long as it would let me.

But you know, the loss of charm is all relative. Some people might say that Knott's lost its charm with the removal of: the parachutes, Wacky Soap Box Racers, Corkscrew, etc. People of an older generation may argue that charm was lost when the aforementioned attractions were installed in place of whatever else where there before. In due time, there will be a generation of people upset at the removal of current attractions that we deemed to be ruining what was there before. So, regardless of age, no one is wrong in feeling that charm is being lost around the park.

[Bolliger&MabillardCockroach and rat free since 2002!]

In 2021.......


"What? They're removing Perilous Plunge? But that's the only thing on the boardwalk that has to do with water? They're ruining the atmosphere of the park!"

[fatdaddyI'm 39 and can't find the Shift Key]

^You know all the charm was lost when they took out Hammerhead! (sarcasm)

I wish people under, let's say 30, would quit talking about Knott's charm, if your in your 20's you didn't experience Knott's charm. I mean the park was totally different when I was a kid, how bout this, if you have not seen 4 different coasters including Xcelerator in that spot, don't talk nostalgia.

I don't think that is true. The things I remember most about KBF that are gone now are mostly the "little things" like the mural that used to be in the tunnel, how creepy the church+reflection lake were during haunt, the "original" berry stand/vines, and even the dolphin show! Let alone the bigger attractions I loved like Soap Box Racers, Parachute drop, and the Haunt shack.

But in the present state, it is what it is. There's no turning back at this point, so they might as well keep doing what they are doing: building thrill rides and restoring what they can inside the park to maintain some of that old charm.

That was actually the point I was making, that if your old enough to remember those coasters, your old enough to remember the rest of the park when it really was still the Knott's of old. I mean tons of rides, show and attractions have gone in the time since the steeple chase coaster was there. I even miss the old souveniers they used to have. I have no problem with the state of the park as it is, most of the people who complain don't visit the park anyway. There is a lot of work that still needs to be done to the park and I would guess we will see more things either removed or refurbished. Actually there is still a lot of things still there from the "old" Knott's, but again, if you are of the younger generation, you probably don't even know they are there.