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What clearance issue?

 

Quick tip, if you're 6-3 or over, wear low-heeled shoes or you may be too tall to ride. My 6-4 son couldn't ride today at media day. My take on the ride to come later. I'll say this much - intense!

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I can also say that it appears the pre-show rooms would NOT be handled like Apocalypse. You would just go through them as part of the regular line to give you something to look at, not unlike the queue for Roger Rabbit at Disneyland.

 

I'm not a fan of arm guards either, but you really don't notice them. I don't know if this is a "hands up" sort of ride anyway... the forces are much stronger than it looks from the ground. I overheard someone describe it as feeling a bit like the Zipper flat ride, and I'm inclined to agree--that's a good comparison. And I don't exactly do hands up on Zippers.

 

And the clearance issue is with the station. It's very tight in there.

 

So the two issues that everybody's complaining about are really non-issues. Now, the wait could be more valid. It was a bit slow, and each side can hold 4 at a time. It's tough to say how efficient the operation will be. It was certainly slow, but a large part of that was also accommodating various media. But once they get a groove, it may go by fairly quickly--as quickly as 4 at a time can get, anyway.

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"Pre-show" room 1

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"Pre-show" room 2

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The main entrance

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Don't you want to ride Wonder Woman? Er, at least her Lasso of Truth.

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The Flash ride entrance

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"The Fastest Man Alive"

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The Flash logo detail was added by late afternoon... they're still adding touches here and there

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Teen Titans pizza

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Souvenir stand. It opened later. Mostly stuff you've already seen, but there's a couple of new items.

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A phone booth with abandoned clothes. Clark Kent's? Actually, if you are a comics geek, there are a lot of details, including amusing trash cans of Plastic Man and Metal Man

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And it wouldn't be Magic Mountain in the morning without a gaggle of geese. Hope you liked my iPhone pics, at least it's better than nothing!

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Putting your hands up on that kind of ride is definitely not practical, but it's something I would love to try out. Just to see how it feels.

 

^^ And DC Universe looks GREAT! All together it looks like its going to be the most popular part of the park due to its flashiness and appeal. I expect to see lines coming out of every ride there tomorrow and next week. Maybe not Flash though...

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Why are there arm guards on the outside? You can't reach anything that could possibly cause you harm from what i've seen. However on the inside it seems much more likely. However, I'll still ride GL and likely/hopefully enjoy it.

 

From the POV's it sure does look CRAZY.

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^Can I say one more time... the clearance issues are in the station. It's very tight it there. It'll make sense when you actually ride, but the fencing and supports at the boarding area are extremely close to the cars.

 

Perhaps the pic will illustrate:

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See the gray posts on both sides that look like they're 6-8 inches away? They really are. Thus arm guards.

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Their are armguards like on S:EFK but I didn't even notice them while on the ride.

 

That is a very good point. Most people won't give it a second thought but if you go into it thinking negatively about the guards without really knowing what its like until you ride then you pretty much ruined the experience for yourself already and that's what you will focus on, the guards, not the amazing ride experience this can deliver. It would be sad to let something silly like this take away from having a great ride. Why can't people just ignore stuff like that? Pick....pick....pick!

 

I could understand if they delivered pain, then you could not ignore it. But they don't, they are just another part of the ride vehicle that, unless you allow it, will not affect the quality of the ride. If you don't allow something like that to bother you then there is nothing stopping a great experience from happening.

 

Btw, the transformation of that area looks amazing!

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Yup, if you look at my pic of the station, you can see the roof line and the station supports are the same distance from the cars. It actually surprises you a bit with how close it is if you're in the outside seat as you go up the lift.

 

Other have reviewed, but I already mentioned that: it's more intense that it looks, and it feels a bit similar to a zipper.

 

The line is single file, and splits at the very end. If it'll work anything like today, you will be assigned into groups of four and then told to go to one side or the other. You'll wait at the bottom of the stairs first, then climb up the stairs (there's only space for one group of four at the top of the stairs). The station can hold four cars. The one on the furthest end is boarding, the next is exiting, and the other two are in a hold. It's a bit confusing at first, as one group exits and one group boards at the time time, but they have to cross each other. But I think it'll make sense as things get in a "groove"... meaning that the boarding group will be seated before the exiting group gets off. I know it sounds confusing, but you just sort of have to see it. Maybe adjustments will be made to the boarding process as time goes by.

 

Also one thing to note... there is a somewhat lengthy mid-course break pause. It's not really a true stop, if you look carefully, the car does continue slowly inching forward. Tim said this was for two reasons: 1) to slow down the rotation of the cars, and 2) to help keep the boarding flow a bit better. When you watch it from the ground, it looks like it'd be a big interruption in the ride. But when you're actually on it, you almost hardly notice it, believe it or not. A lot of people were initially disappointed to see a "mid course brake" before we got on it, but not a soul mentioned about it after riding (well, not one that I heard, anyway).

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Alright, first question. Is there a single-rider line and is the ride on Flash Pass? And second, why are the cars stopping so much on the block brakes now? In the test runs it was only slowing just a bit. Maybe only because it was for testing reasons.

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Didn't see a single rider line yet. I'd hope they'd get one too, but I see no sign of it right now. But the Flashpass signs are already up.

 

I addressed what Tim said about the block brake in my previous post. That was right from the horse's mouth.

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Quick tip, if you're 6-3 or over, wear low-heeled shoes or you may be too tall to ride. My 6-4 son couldn't ride today at media day. My take on the ride to come later. I'll say this much - intense!

 

I just saw the 77" height restriction listed on the SFMM Web site. Looks like I won't be able to ride.

I don't understand why a ride of this type would need such a restriction. This is hugely disappointing.

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From the Six Flags Twitter

 

Wow...my bald spot appears to be getting bigger. Good thing I can't normally see it.

ii guessing your in the right side with stripes.

 

It's actually a solid green, but looks striped in this photo. Front row, in front of the blonde in the white sweatshirt.

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Today was media day for the new DC Universe and Green Lantern First Flight at Six Flags Magic Mountain. First off the area looks great and is full of color. And Green Lantern is an awesome addition. The ride is intense and basically the weight distribution will either give you an OK ride or an OMFG kinda ride, today they were not balancing the cars. As some people have already mentioned the ride kinda feel's like a carnival Zipper on a track. The arm guards are not a nuisance at all and during the course of the ride I didn't even notice them. As of today there was not a single rider entrance, but the Flashpass sign was up in all it's glory. As mentioned before there is no preshow but several themed rooms to get you out of the heat, and give you something to look at. So now on to the pictures and video!

 

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MMmmmm Something is about to be uncovered?

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DC Universe is now open

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Wonder Woman without pants! Good Choice

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New Theming

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More new theming

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Teen Titan's Pizza

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And today's main attraction

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The stage and the Lantern. The Lantern does light up.

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Bonnie Rabjohn, SFMM park president welcoming us.

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Geoff Johns DC Cheif Creative Officer and Green Lantern writer.

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And the man of the hour

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Fireworks

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Green Lantern's Confetti Flight

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Theming

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Happy Riders

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Inside station shot

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Going Up

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Thank you Six Flags

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More Happy Riders

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Cars with soft and comfy restraints. And seriously the arm guard is not a big freakin deal at all.

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Nerd Shot

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The villan side of the arch. Very nicely done

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And we'll leave you with someone who left their clothes behind in a phone booth?

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Alright, first question. Is there a single-rider line and is the ride on Flash Pass? And second, why are the cars stopping so much on the block brakes now? In the test runs it was only slowing just a bit. Maybe only because it was for testing reasons.

 

I was a single rider today but there were no others that I saw. I hooked up pretty quickly with a group of three. They wouldn't let me ride alone. I got the impression it was an attempt to maximize capacity and had nothing to do with weight distribution.

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OMG!!! I got on Green Lantern today and it is SO GOOD!!!!! And from what I heard from one of the employees, they are planning on putting in a single riders line to allow groups of three to go since they won't load a car without 4 people, and looking in the line for single riders would be too hard. And like everyone else said, you don't even remember the ride had armguards once the ride starts.

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The ride is awesome, the arm guards don't make a difference, really this is not a coaster that you are gonna wanna put your arms up on anyway. The rest of DC Universe is very well done, my daughter loves superheros and she's gonna love this, and she won't even be riding Green Lantern.

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I got 2 of my 5 rides by offering to be a single rider. i.e. paying attention, standing out of the way on the exit ramp, and madly waving hands when the ride-ops are obviously looking for a spare rider.

 

I heard some rumors of park employees etc. that were able to ride in unbalanced configurations (heavy one side, light the other) those folks had nearly continuous spins. All my rides were slightly over balanced on one side and that way you get one spin on the last drop. I talked to another rider who said his car was very well balanced and he did not get the last spin.

 

The ride cycle time was slow and with only 8 riders per car this will mean a long wait. You should plan on ERT goodness unless you don't mind spending more than an hour in line. My experience was: I waited until the crush died down and the line was at the building entrance. While waiting, about 30 people decided they had waited to long and exited. All told it was about 45 minutes.

 

By the time I got to the line split (left/right) they had a ride-op stationed there to filter the crowd of people onto the platform. They were letting 8 people wait at the top of the stairs and 8 people stand at the bottom (setting up groups of 4). Apparently this was to prevent "crowded, hot, miserable" conditions in this area of the queue. This area did not have a fan as did the two other rooms of line queue. (When I say fan, I mean a 12 foot diameter 10 bladed monstrosity 20 feed over your head). If they don't keep doing this (think small crowd weekdays) you may have a poor line experience.

 

Some people thought the ride was not "smooth", I disagree, the restraints are comfortable, however, the g-forces are very intense resulting in strong pressure into the restraints (I found myself thinking about the quality of the seatbelts) yet the force is built up over several hundreds of milliseconds resulting in no sudden jarring and no head-slamming. By my 3rd ride I felt courageous enough to hold up my arms to no ill effect (inside seat only).

 

Be aware the 77" maximum = 6'5"; tall people won't be able to ride.

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On the SFMM Facebook they are boasting that Green Lantern is a "never been done before" ride. Anyone want to remind them that the exact same coaster exists in Sweden and there are at least three other Zac-Spin coasters in the world?

 

First in the USA, absolutely, but not "never been done before."

 

--Robb

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