Six Flags Over Texas History Q & A

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Re: Six Flags Over Texas History Q & A

Postby cleusk » Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:52 pm

thrillerman1 wrote:Is the book available for purchase?


It's available for free download at a site called Lulu. Please keep in mind that it only covers the 1960s.

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Re: Six Flags Over Texas History Q & A

Postby BrandonR » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:00 pm

chadster wrote:I've heard rumors that SFOT is not 100% corporate owned. Is there any remote truth to that?


That's true. It's actually a pretty interesting agreement:

Six Flags over Texas is not actually owned by Six Flags Theme Parks Inc. (Six Flags over Georgia has a similar arrangement). Instead, it is owned by over 120 limited partners, some of which are Wynne's heirs. Six Flags Inc. simply manages the park with a "nonvoting, beneficial interest in 52 percent of the theme park and the underlying land."


Also, Clint is the real deal with it comes to SFoT history. He has posted thousands of historical pictures of the park over at SFoT Former Employee Forums, not to mention his book and this documentary he made about the park's early years. Here's a link to his book: http://www.lulu.com/product/file-download/the-golden-age-of-six-flags-over-texas/10279086

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Re: Six Flags Over Texas History Q & A

Postby cleusk » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:19 pm

chadster wrote:I've heard rumors that SFOT is not 100% corporate owned. Is there any remote truth to that?


It's not owned by any corporation. It's owned by a limited partnership with Jack Knox at the helm. He's been in charge since the day Angus Wynne Jr, the creator of Six Flags Over Texas, formed the limited partnership in 1969.

As it stands now, Six Flags Entertainment Corporation owns all the Six Flags parks except SFOT and SFOG. In these two cases, Six Flags Entertainment Corporation can only operate the two parks through a contract with each limited partnership. In exchange for operating the park, SFEC must share a certain percentage of its profit. I can't remember what that percentage is. At any rate, the contract has to be renewed from time to time. The members of each limited partner can choose not to renew the contract through a majority vote. If the majority chooses not to renew the contract, then the current operator, which is now Six Flags Entertainment Corporation, would no longer have the right to operate the park. The limited partnership, in turn, would shop around for another corporation to take the place of SFEC. Because SFEC holds the rights to the Six Flags name, however, the new operator might not be able to call the park SFOT or SFOG. Likewise, if SFEC were to completely collapse, the limited partnership would try to find a replacement to operate the park. Whether or not the new operator would be able to use the Six Flags name, I don't know for sure. At any rate, that's the situation with Six Flags Over Texas.

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Re: Six Flags Over Texas History Q & A

Postby netdvn » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:26 am

^ So how come SFStL isn't included in the limited partnerships like the other two original SF parks?
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Re: Six Flags Over Texas History Q & A

Postby cleusk » Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:47 am

netdvn wrote:^ So how come SFStL isn't included in the limited partnerships like the other two original SF parks?


The limited partnerships were the idea of Angus Wynne Jr. At the time, there were only SFOT and SFOG. He probably did it, and this is just speculation on my part, because he saw the writing on the wall and didn't want his parks destroyed. By the time SFStL opened in 1971, Angus had left the scene, the Great Southwest Corporation was no longer in control, and the new owner was Penn Central, a corporation still going through reorganization bankruptcy. They weren't about to give away ownership of a brand-new park

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Re: Six Flags Over Texas History Q & A

Postby MISTYJ492 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:56 pm

cleusk wrote:
Sportsdude360 wrote:I have a few questions.....

In what year was "Big Bend" first opened? What ride occupied the area prior to "Big Bend"'s construction? In what year was "Spindle Top" removed? What type of ride was "Spindle Top"? "Spinniker" was added in what year? Which celebrity was used to promote it? Why was it removed? In which park is it currently located.

How long was the old "Tree Slide" in operation at the park. The park was used to film scenes for 2 Saturday morning kids shows during the late 60's- name them. What type of ride was "Roto-Disco", why was it removed? What was the name of the parks 70's mascot? What catch phrase was used in park promotions during the 70's ?
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1) Big Bend first opened in 1971.

2) Big Bend did not replace any ride prior to its construction. The Happy Motoring Freeway co-existed with Big Bend during the coaster's tenure. The closest example of this that I know of would be the Chaparral Cars and the Texas Giant. The HMF had two tracks, the first of which was shortened for the creation of Boomtown. The first track of HMF was removed in 1980, which was later replaced in 1982 by the Texas Cliffhanger. The second was removed in 1986 to make way for Splashwater Falls.

3) Spindletop was removed in 1989.

4) Spindletop was a rotor ride. It was built by Chance Industries. The rotor ride was invented in 1949 by German engineer Ernst Hoffmeister and first introduced at the annual Oktoberfest.

5) The Spinnaker was added in 1977.

6) Linda Carter was the one promoting the attraction. The event occurred on March 26th. She was there to sign autographs from 2pm - 4pm.

7) Spinnaker was removed to make room for Runaway Mountain.

8) It's now located at Six Flags Fiesta Texas as the Wagon Wheel. How much is up for debate. I've heard from some that the whole Spinnaker is there at Fiesta while others say that the main frame is still in one of the back areas. They contend that only the cars were sent to Fiesta as a loan for its new ride. When the Air Racer was removed, there was a lot of talk between employees that the Spinnaker would be returned to SFOT. It was obviously not the case.

9) The Tree Slide was one of the park's first attractions, available to visitors in 1961. It was removed at the end of 1978 along with Skull Rock. This pretty much marked the end of Skull Island.

10) The shows which had scenes filmed at SFOT were the Banana Splits and Lidsville. Both of them were shows produced by Sid and Marty Krofft. The two brothers had a contract with the Six Flags parks. They parted with Six Flags to create their own theme park, which was called The World Of Sid And Marty Krofft and located at Atlanta, Georgia. The ending of the Krofft contract was the main force behind the creation of Cyrus Cosmo.

11) The Roto Disco, originally called the Rotoriculous, was a Himalaya ride.

12) The Roto Disco was removed to make way for the Flashback.

13) The SFOT mascot, who was exclusive to the park, was called Cyrus Cosmo. Cyrus was the creation of Paul Osbourne, a local entertainer and magician. He was created for the 1975 season.

14) The SFOT promotion was ""Six Flags is what you wish the world could be!" It started in 1975. I don't know when it ended, but it was probably in 1977 or 1978 when the Cyrus character was removed.


***CORRECTION TO COMMENT #13 -Cyrus Cosmo was created by my Dad, David Council. Paul Osbourne only played the character of Cyrus Cosmo in an illusion show***

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