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Postby ChrisZer0 » Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:00 pm

Robb, the walibi and DLP pics look great!! I was curious, whats different with the theming of Space Mountain Mission 2?

Also, thank you also for the info on the hotels. GF and I will prolly be hitting the ibis hotels in paris proper when we do our london-paris-rome adventure next year.

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Postby Hattuchili » Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:01 pm

Hey Robb,
great update and very good pictures again! To bad it was raining at Walibi! :(
The Disney pictures bring back all the good memories I have from that Park! Good to hear you like the Rock´n Roller coaster! It is also my favorite coaster there, and I like it much more than the WDW version, too!
I think the Sequoia Lodge is the best Hotel there! I really like the canadian wood style! Yes, and the food at the Hunter´s Grill is perfect! :wink:
Can not wait to see more pictures tomorrow!

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Postby robbeal » Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:24 pm

The Boomerang at Walibi Rohne-Alps looks like a laugh actually. The hanging moment when you roll towards the boomerang again would give a pretty cool feeling. If only the ride wasn't as painful as hell!

As for the Pinfari at Nigloland, it looks like the same ride as the one at M&Ds in Scotland, and that only seems to have good reviews as well. Looks like Pinfari can do something right every now and then.
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Postby msep003 » Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:45 pm

i suggest to Robb and Elissa on Monday to try after Parc Asterix to go at Le Jardin D'acclimatation to add 3 More Coasters at the center of Paris and also the night at the Fair at the west of Paris in Saint Germain en Laye Same line as Disney and they have schuttles from the Station to the Fair ( 3 More Coasters )

Total of Coasters outside Asterix at those parks 6 coasters .

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Postby exsodius » Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:37 pm

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I am so exited to hear what you think of tonnerre de zeus wooden coaster at parc asterix! I really love that one! I have read the whole TR now mostly for this reason. Can you please compare it to balder and colossos for me, so i know where i am going on vacation in august :) So far i think i will go to heide park after reading your review. And maybe tivoli too.

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Postby robbalvey » Sat Jul 02, 2005 11:19 pm

^ Well, I can tell you that my rides I had on Tonerre De Zues in 1997, 98, and 99 would put it firmly in my #1 spot. However my rides that I had in 2002, were much, much worse, and the ride would have dropped out of my top 20.

Now that was before having ridden Colossos and Balder, which are fantastic, and IMO, better than my original rides on TdZ. If TdZ is running on Monday like it was in 1997 - 1999, it would be in my top 5. But if it is still rough, I doubt it will be in my top 20 or 30.

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Postby Watson » Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:00 am

Too bad about your visits to Rhône-Alpes and Lorraine.
I think Rhône-Alpes is in a better condition then you described it. We visited the park 3 weeks ago and yes, it has no decent entrance, and yes, there are not too many rides.

But the park was "clean", and well taken care of.
The malaria swamp is du to the very hot periode we experienced in western europe the last month.

The rides they have aren't too wow but you have to put in perspective to the park's budget. The three French Walibis (originally bought by Meeus from Walibi in Belgium) were only bought 'to have a large group' but were never invested in. They just got their small budget and had to try to make the best of it. Walibi Belgium, Walibi World and MoviePark Germany always got the bigger share of the budget.

This year, management wanted to make more of a family park out of Walibi World and wanted to get ride of some thrill rides. Their double invertor moved to Walibi Rhône-Alpes and their Chance Chaos to Walibi Aquitaine. You see, even IF these parks get something new, it is but second hand material from their sister parks.

The people at the entrance even thought our Walibi Passes were cool since they "looked like a bank card" and their's don't.

You see what I mean. And although the park isn't that great, they make an effort and I can only have but sympathy for them.

By the way, since you were fascinated by the Boomerang, did you have a chance to have a look at their S&S-shot?
When this one's ride programme is finished, it stops halfway the tower and starts descending reeeally slow. Descend for a few feet. Stop. Descend for a few feet. Stop.

Walibi Lorraine has the same problem as Walibi Rhône-Alpes. No budget whatsoever. And with the disappearance of the smurfs not even a theme anymore. Unlike what you said, no rides have disappeared however. The mony ride that disappeared was some sort of bad earthquake-simulator. Sad thing about Lorraine is that they MASSIVE amounts of land. Without exagerration, they could nearly fit an entirely Disney-domain on it. And they are situated alongside one of the major Frecnh highways. This park could have so much potential if only they put the right money and vision into it. By the way, when Anaconda was built, it was the biggest wooden coaster in Europe.

Space Mountain mission 2 has better new effects as you think.
In the old version, you flew alongside static comets and through a comet/bar. This time, you still do that but the comets have moving projections adding to the illusion. Ok, the story is gone but there weren't that many people understanding it, honest. The soundtrack isn't reaaly techno. It is more in the "Incredibles"-trend. The music was composed by Incredibles-score-composer Ciacchino.

Indiana Jones is worse forwards then it is backwards. It has one advantage tough. You can see the curves coming and brace yourself for them.

And Parc Astérix is NEVER empty!
It must be France's most popular parc.
It is very popular with the French themselves. And this has something to do with the story behind it. Asterix was a Gaul (now French) hero who resisted against Roman occupation in the year 50 BC. The comic is VERY popular in France and is an icon of French chauvinism. Since the French don't like Anglo-American invasion of their culture, they see Asterix as the hero defending against the big US-giant Disney.
And chauvinism is a French word in origin.

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Postby Eftelflags » Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:47 am

Well! That Boomie is indeed verry not-normal....


Disney land paris is great!

I Hope you have an great time there!

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Postby Erik Johnson » Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:15 am

Robb mentioned that he prefers the Paris version of Rock N Roller Coaster over the Orlando version which leads me to believe that the Paris version is simply not a clone. Since I am a fan of the Orlando one, I was wondering if there were any other differences between the two coasters. Hope to meet you all in Orlando this October...I hope you do schedule a few weekend days for your upcoming trip.

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Postby Cllins » Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:22 am

Homey G. wrote:^ Nick you should try to do some southern parks if you come back to the US.

I could act as somewhat of a guide at Dollywood, Carowinds, or SFoG free of charge!

Brian, trying to score brownie points considering I might need a guide for my trip to the UK next year :)


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Thanks for the offer. Have not decided yet were to go next year.
We will consider doing the southern parks certainly, also looking at doing some parks in the Boston & Washington area.


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