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Re: Planning a Hershey, Knoebels, Dorney trip

Postby operative_me » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:55 am

Interesting thread, I'm planning to go to Dorney on the 20th and Knoebels on the 21st. I would like to try to hit Hershey but I think I'm going to go to Gettysburg on the 22nd (blah history, I know, I know) and drive back to Cleveland on Thursday to be at work in the afternoon. We'll leave CLE early on the 20th and hopefully get to Dorney around noon. I know Dorney is only open til 8 but 8 hours should be enough to hit everything right? And I definitely want to budget a full day for Knoebels, after all I have read on this forum.

Edit: I just realized I kind of hijacked your thread, I apologize. I can be a d*ck sometimes.

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Re: Planning a Hershey, Knoebels, Dorney trip

Postby coasterbill » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:02 pm

operative_me wrote:I know Dorney is only open til 8 but 8 hours should be enough to hit everything right?


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Re: Planning a Hershey, Knoebels, Dorney trip

Postby CoasterAuditor » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:36 pm

If you went to Dorney for 8 hours I assume you could do every single major attraction twice, and then do a 25 ride marathon on Hydra and Talon each.
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Re: Planning a Hershey, Knoebels, Dorney trip

Postby operative_me » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:31 pm

Heh that's what I figured. I think 8 hours will be fine, my girlfriend wants to hit up the waterpark so she can do that while I marathon rides.

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Re: Planning a Hershey, Knoebels, Dorney trip

Postby AndrewA86 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:08 pm

coasterbill wrote:What kinds of things do you like?

Personally, I think Knoebels is the greatest amusement park to ever grace our humble planet but I see in a lot of your posts that you seem like (maybe I'm wrong) you're a "Maximum thrills or GTFO" kind of guy (see: "Witches Wheel isn't thrilling enough for me even though like... did you expect a crazy thrill ride?") so part of me feels like you'll probably just want to dedicate the majority of your time to riding Storm Runner and Skyrush at Hersheypark. Knoebels has an amazing collection of custom flat rides, cheesy dark rides, great "theme park food" and super old things that you rarely see elsewhere. They're not all going to thrill you but they're super cool. If you're into that then you'll love Knoebels. If you'd rather spend the most time riding the craziest rides possible then you can probably get away with doing Dorney and Knoebels in one day (though I don't suggest that for most people) and spending the rest of your time trying not to die on Skyrush.


I'm probably 80% maximum thrills, 20% other. Aside from thrilling attractions I like rides that are unique, rare, old, etc.. and I hear Knoebels is full of rides like that. My thing with Witches Wheel is that it's not unique, or rare, and it just got really old for me.


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But then again, we also had the front of the line pass at Hershey
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Stupid question, but I assume they sell these in the park and not just online??

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coasterbill wrote:I see in a lot of your posts that you seem like you're a "Maximum thrills or GTFO" kind of guy (see: "Witches Wheel isn't thrilling enough for me even though like... did you expect a crazy thrill ride?") so part of me feels like you'll probably just want to dedicate the majority of your time to riding Storm Runner and Skyrush at Hersheypark.

See, this is really good information to know. I find that so many times people will ask for advice but not tell anyone what they like so many times the advice given and the person asking don't match up.

Remember, I am Disney > Roller Coasters. I would seriously rather ride Big Thunder Mountain or Pooh's Hunny Hunt any day over most of the roller coasters on this planet.

So Knoebels is a perfect park for me. If you're someone who isn't into casual rides, park atmosphere or moderate thrills, honestly, Knoebels may not be a good fit for you.

I agree with Bill and think that Knoebels is the best "amusement" park on the planet, and there is not a Six Flags or Cedar Fair park I'd rather be at over a day at Knoebels, but that's just how I prefer things.


It's all about expectations. Anyone on here should be able to enjoy any park as long as they have reasonable expectations. We just had our city fair and it was a blast because I expected a fair and not Cedar Point. SO with Knoebels I expect a fair like atmosphere with the possibility of Phoenix to possibly be thrilling, but I've lowered my expectations on that because aside from RMC's, all the great wooden coasters tend to leave me underwhelmed.

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AndrewA86 wrote:I could hit Dorney on the 20th, and preview HP that night since I've heard you can do that with a single day ticket to HP. Then all day at HP on the 21st, and then Knoebels on the 22nd. Or skip out of Johnstown early on the 19th and hit Dorney for a half day, but thats a Sunday.. Then 2 days at HP on the 20th and 21st, and then Knoebels on the 22nd. I have to be hone on the 23rd..


I think this is your best option. Dorney won't have any queues on the ride side. You have the coasters plus a good lineup of non-coasters (Demon Drop, Thunder Canyon, Whip, Log Flume, Meteor). You'll have enough time to hit everything and then get to Hershey for the preview. If you plan to do the water park, you may encounter some lines there unless you go immediately when it opens or at the end of the day.

Hershey shouldn't have bad lines outside of Laff Trakk. Even if the park is empty, that will be at least a 30-45 minute wait. I'd recommend riding Comet and Skyrush on the preview night since those two get the longest lines immediately after opening because of their proximity to the entrance. By the afternoon, their queues have died down.

Knoebels is the best of the three parks in my opinion. You're visiting on a weekday, which is good since the POP is available to you. Basically try everything at Knoebels. Even the flats that don't look special will run crazy programs.


Honestly I would not be disappointed if I don't get on Laff Trakk. It's just another indoor spinning wild mouse, right? Like Exterminator at Kennywood and The Dark Knight at Six Flags?

ytterbiumanalyst wrote:I went last year about this same time and all 3 parks had pretty good attendance. With Hershey, if you plan it right you can get to all the good stuff on preview night easily, then the next day re-rides and maybe branch out a little and try stuff.

Go into Great Bear with low expectations for intensity. She's just not that kind of bear. Let her tell you what she's into, and she'll show you a good time.

Knoebel's will be busy even on a weekday, but their operations are incredible and the wait will be shorter than you think it should be for that line length. Phoenix is for real. Knoebel's, as it's been said, it a park to relax in, not a park to be thrilled by. The more you conform to its pace, the more fun you'll have.

Dorney will probably be super busy as well. You may experience--are you sitting down?--FIVE. MINUTE. WAITS. I know, it's horrible. But you're going in peak season, you should expect this.


5 minutes? They better let me bring my phone in the queue... Which actually leads me to a decent question about loose articles. Are these parks OK with phones, keys and wallets in a zipped pocket?

operative_me wrote:Interesting thread, I'm planning to go to Dorney on the 20th and Knoebels on the 21st. I would like to try to hit Hershey but I think I'm going to go to Gettysburg on the 22nd (blah history, I know, I know) and drive back to Cleveland on Thursday to be at work in the afternoon. We'll leave CLE early on the 20th and hopefully get to Dorney around noon. I know Dorney is only open til 8 but 8 hours should be enough to hit everything right? And I definitely want to budget a full day for Knoebels, after all I have read on this forum.

Edit: I just realized I kind of hijacked your thread, I apologize. I can be a d*ck sometimes.


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Re: Planning a Hershey, Knoebels, Dorney trip

Postby ytterbiumanalyst » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:52 pm

AndrewA86 wrote:Which actually leads me to a decent question about loose articles. Are these parks OK with phones, keys and wallets in a zipped pocket?

Yes, in a zipped pocket, no problem. The only coaster in all three of these parks that even has a policy is Skyrush, and HP provides free fluffy, fluffy bunnies filled with medicine and goo before you get in line and cubbies at the station. But if it's zipped they won't say a thing.
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Re: Planning a Hershey, Knoebels, Dorney trip

Postby A.J. » Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:58 am

AndrewA86 wrote:I'm probably 80% maximum thrills, 20% other. Aside from thrilling attractions I like rides that are unique, rare, old, etc.. and I hear Knoebels is full of rides like that. My thing with Witches Wheel is that it's not unique, or rare, and it just got really old for me.

Knoebels is NOT a "maximum thrills" park. It's a "maximum fun" park.

Pretty much all of their "best" attractions are unique in some way. Phoenix with its buzz-bar-enabled airtime buffet, Flying Turns for obvious reasons, Twister with its inspired layout, the best sets of Flying Skooters AND bumper cars in the US, the cheesy-yet-still-wonderfully-terrifying Haunted Mansion... The list goes on. There is so much variety in Knoebels' selection of unique attractions that you'll be able to find something "new" and interesting pretty much immediately after you begin to feel like something gets "old".

Honestly I would not be disappointed if I don't get on Laff Trakk. It's just another indoor spinning wild mouse, right? Like Exterminator at Kennywood and The Dark Knight at Six Flags?

It's a Maurer spinning coaster. The same size as a wild mouse but with larger drops and twists as opposed to back-and-forth switchbacks. Steel Dragon at Waldameer and Whirlwind at Seabreeze are outdoor examples.

robbalvey wrote:I agree with Bill and think that Knoebels is the best "amusement" park on the planet, and there is not a Six Flags or Cedar Fair park I'd rather be at over a day at Knoebels, but that's just how I prefer things.

Add me to this camp as well.
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Re: Planning a Hershey, Knoebels, Dorney trip

Postby coasterbill » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:50 am

Keep your expectations right where they are for Phoenix and Twister. If you do then you'll positively lose your sh*t when you ride Phoenix. :lol:

Otherwise, my only tip is to bookmark this pierogie map. You need to eat these but don't get them from any other stand. They are imposters.

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... actually, just eat everything. DO NOT eat on the way to the park. Food is really cheap and really amazing. Eat one of everything throughout the day.

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Re: Planning a Hershey, Knoebels, Dorney trip

Postby JG-77 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:03 pm

Also, this isn’t related to trip planning necessarily, but I strongly suggest riding Phoenix in the very front, especially for your first ride.
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Re: Planning a Hershey, Knoebels, Dorney trip

Postby Taylor Finn » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:18 pm

Some of my personal Knoebels food favs:

Those pierogies, not the ones found elsewhere, sweet tea slushes, waffle ice cream sandwich, breakfast at the food court (it’s nothing crazy, but you can get it before rides open and it’s affordable), cheese-on-stick, warm roasted peanuts in the shell, and pork chop on a stick with sauerkraut and mashed potatoes. Eat it all.

And don’t miss the flats already mentioned. And maybe give Phoenix a ride in the 3rd row. It’s really great! If you’re going to go ticket route (weekends only option is tickets), stop at Weiss markets nearby and pick up $20 books for $16. Buy a bit more than you think you want.

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