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Re: Golden Ticket Awards 2017

Postby coasterbill » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:35 pm

boldikus wrote:
robbalvey wrote:We just need to have our own awards.


DO IT.

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Seriously you guys are the premier theme park review site on the internet. I hadn't thought of it until your post, but why aren't there annual TPR awards?


I second this. It would obviously be a lot of extra work that you probably have no interest in taking on, but I love the idea. As an added bonus, the site name (which I think implies that it's more of a review site than it really is despite the excellent park index) would be fitting for a site that puts out a major theme park rankings poll.

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Re: Golden Ticket Awards 2017

Postby prozach626 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:04 pm

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"Most disappointing ride of 2017"
"Worst theme park food"
"Worst place to bring children"
"Dirtiest theme park of the year"
"Stupidest shows"
"Most hateful employees"

Spoiler alert: Magic Mountain takes the most awards

Lmfao! You read my mind with the Magic Mountain comment.

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Re: Golden Ticket Awards 2017

Postby DavidB » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:08 pm

prozach626 wrote:
RAWKIN_coaster38 wrote:
"Most disappointing ride of 2017"
"Worst theme park food"
"Worst place to bring children"
"Dirtiest theme park of the year"
"Stupidest shows"
"Most hateful employees"

Spoiler alert: Magic Mountain takes the most awards

Lmfao! You read my mind with the Magic Mountain comment.


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Re: Golden Ticket Awards 2017

Postby Nrthwnd » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:11 pm

And how about, the

"Calling A Flat A Coaster Award"....? "Most Overhyped Attraction of The Year"...? "Beautiful Bathrooms Award"...? (Can't be ALL negative, hmm?)

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Re: Golden Ticket Awards 2017

Postby robbalvey » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:12 pm

coasterbill wrote:It would obviously be a lot of extra work that you probably have no interest in taking on

There ya go!

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Re: Golden Ticket Awards 2017

Postby boldikus » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:18 pm

^ I knew that was coming. :lol:

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Re: Golden Ticket Awards 2017

Postby coasterbill » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:19 pm

:lol: :lmao: :lol: :lmao: :lol:

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Re: Golden Ticket Awards 2017

Postby robbalvey » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:34 pm

Seriously though, the only way I would do it is if someone presented me with something that was closer to the Mitch Hawker poll. Most of you probably know I *HATE* polls and awards because most of the time they are just popularity contests from poorly weighted data. There would need to be some sort of algorithm that would help determine results based on actual real ridership and experience. And that's why I liked Mitch's poll and embraced it.

I just don't have the time to produce it myself, but if there was someone who had the knowledge and the time, I'd be willing to help promote it and take it under our banner.

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Re: Golden Ticket Awards 2017

Postby Nitro1118 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:14 pm

It has been an idea of mine ever since Mitch stopped running his poll. I always had two issues with putting in the work to make it happen; figuring out the best way to tabulate the votes and make a fair list, and the massive amount of free time needed to complete such a task.

Here is an excerpt from Mitch regarding how he came up with final results:

Each coaster is compared one at a time to every other coaster to see whether
more people who have ridden both of them preferred one or the other.
A coaster is given a "Win" for each coaster that more mutual riders ranked
behind it, given a "Loss" for each coaster that more mutual riders ranked ahead
of it, and given a "Tie" for each coaster that the same number of mutual riders
ranked above it and below it.

Coasters are ranked by their overall winning percentage (where ties count as
half of a win and half of a loss). In the event that two coasters end up with
identical winning percentages, the tie is broken (if possible) by determining
which of the two won the mutual rider comparison between those two coasters.


It was actually a relatively simple system. Where I would find issue is how to factor in ridership. For example, two people might have a relatively rare credit somewhere in Asia that they both view as their #1. Meanwhile 84 of 86 people have El Toro as their #1 coaster. The 2 voters who didn't have El Toro as their top coaster are the two who had that rare Asian coaster as their favorite. In that scenario, that coaster would have a perfect winning % and would have beaten El Toro in the head-to-head. Does that justify listing it as #1 despite the massively disproportionate ridership numbers?

That brings us back to the point that these lists are arbitrary and can easily be manipulated by voters and the system itself. That, in turn, ends up just pissing people off.

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Re: Golden Ticket Awards 2017

Postby robbalvey » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:41 pm

Nitro1118 wrote:Where I would find issue is how to factor in ridership. For example, two people might have a relatively rare credit somewhere in Asia that they both view as their #1. Meanwhile 84 of 86 people have El Toro as their #1 coaster. The 2 voters who didn't have El Toro as their top coaster are the two who had that rare Asian coaster as their favorite. In that scenario, that coaster would have a perfect winning % and would have beaten El Toro in the head-to-head. Does that justify listing it as #1 despite the massively disproportionate ridership numbers?

Remember that Mitch required a minimum number of riders of a coaster to have it even be included in the final results. I forget what the number was but I want to say it was around 10. So that would basically help eliminate the scenario you just mentioned.

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