Six Flags Over Texas History Q & A

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Re: Six Flags Over Texas History Q & A

Postby jedimaster1227 » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:14 pm

^Hard research through what sources? You'd be more credible if you gave us an idea where your research stems from.
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Re: Six Flags Over Texas History Q & A

Postby cleusk » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:34 pm

The Dallas Morning News archives, the Fort Worth Star Telegram archives, Newsbank, Infotrac, online magazine articles, library collections, maps, photos, documents, handbooks, former employees, and web sites. I've self-published a book about SFOT, created a documentary about the park's origins, and about to embark on another endeavor soon. Those are my credentials.

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Re: Six Flags Over Texas History Q & A

Postby QueerRudie » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:37 pm

cleusk wrote:10) The shows which had scenes filmed at SFOT were the Banana Splits and Lidsville. Both of them were shows produced by Sid and Marty Krofft. The two brothers had a contract with the Six Flags parks. They parted with Six Flags to create their own theme park, which was called The World Of Sid And Marty Krofft and located at Atlanta, Georgia. The ending of the Krofft contract was the main force behind the creation of Cyrus Cosmo.



Actually- this is incomplete and erronius information.

Sid and Marty Kroft's participation in this was actually very minimal-

The Banana Splits was shot as part of a stage show by Hanna Barbera productions, out of Cincinatti, Ohio, from 1968-1970. For the first year, a handful of shots (Mainly the musical scenes) were shot at SFOT- but the remainder of the shots were done at Coney Island. After that, the show was produced in conjumtion with another Taft enterprise- Coney Island, Cincinatti, Oh. Sid and Marty Kroft's only participation in the production was that of creating the costumes- which were in turn based upon Hanna Barbera characters. The show itself was a foray into the animated-live television format for HB productions.

The reason that they were 'evivted' from SixFlags parks? Well... In 1969, it was made clear that Taft was planning a new 'theme park' of sorts for Cincinatti, OH... one to be called Kings Island.

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Re: Six Flags Over Texas History Q & A

Postby Sportsdude360 » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:03 pm

cleusk wrote:The Dallas Morning News archives, the Fort Worth Star Telegram archives, Newsbank, Infotrac, online magazine articles, library collections, maps, photos, documents, handbooks, former employees, and web sites. I've self-published a book about SFOT, created a documentary about the park's origins, and about to embark on another endeavor soon. Those are my credentials.



In that case you really do know a lot about SFOT. Don't suppose you have any info on plans the park has for the future?

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Re: Six Flags Over Texas History Q & A

Postby cleusk » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:48 pm

QueerRudie wrote:
Actually- this is incomplete and erronius information.

Sid and Marty Kroft's participation in this was actually very minimal- Sid and Marty Kroft's only participation in the production was that of creating the costumes- which were in turn based upon Hanna Barbera characters. The show itself was a foray into the animated-live television format for HB productions.


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QueerRudie wrote:The reason that they were 'evicted' from SixFlags parks? Well... In 1969, it was made clear that Taft was planning a new 'theme park' of sorts for Cincinatti, OH... one to be called Kings Island.


The Krofft productions at the Six Flags parks were strong and popular at the time King's Island was created. The last season of the SFOT Krofft Theater was 1975 - the same year that Cyrus Cosmo was introduced. It was also the same year that the Krofft brothers entered an agreement with a company called Alpert and Cousins to build The World of Sid and Marty Krofft. It was located in Downtown Atlanta. At a cost of 14 million dollars, it was the world's first indoor theme park. It opened on May 26, 1976 and closed on November 7, 1976. In 1987, the building which housed the theme park became the home of CNN.

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Re: Six Flags Over Texas History Q & A

Postby QueerRudie » Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:01 pm

^ Right- but the Hanna Barbera portions that were noted for the Banana Splits were actually removed in 1969- and moved to the Coney Island park for filming. Taft was working very hard to make the Kings Island project a reality- and at the same time, Six Flags didn't like the indirect competition!

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Re: Six Flags Over Texas History Q & A

Postby cleusk » Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:08 pm

Sportsdude360 wrote:. Don't suppose you have any info on plans the park has for the future?


Unfortunately, I don't know a thing. The executives at the park keep their future plans close to their chests.

Fortunately, I do know that Casa Magnetica will be open from June 18th to August 7th.

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Re: Six Flags Over Texas History Q & A

Postby cleusk » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:07 pm

QueerRudie wrote:^ Right- but the Hanna Barbera portions that were noted for the Banana Splits were actually removed in 1969- and moved to the Coney Island park for filming. Taft was working very hard to make the Kings Island project a reality- and at the same time, Six Flags didn't like the indirect competition!

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The only Six Flags parks around in 1969 were SFOT and SFOG. Both parks were NOT owned by Six Flags Incorporated. They were separately owned by a limited partnership. SFI only operated the two parks and that was it. All the power was in the hands of Angus Wynne Jr. and the limited partnerships, who could have cared less about film crews or whatever was going on in Ohio.

In 1969, the Kroffts had a strong, warm relationship with Six Flags and continued to do so. If it weren't for the contract with Six Flags, the television career of Sid and Marty Krofft would have crashed and the two brothers would have been in deep trouble. They said so themselves in a video interview with the Archive of American Television. It was a great arrangement between Krofft and the Great Southwest Corporation, and there was no animosity whatsoever. The relationship continued to be strong after the Penn Central replaced the GSC in 1971 because the Krofft TV shows were so popular and continued to attract crowds to Six Flags. Likewise, the Kroffts were still financially struggling. At any rate, the Kroffts left in 1975 because they were offered their own theme park in Atlanta, which would be in direct competition with Six Flags Over Georgia. It had absolutely nothing to do with location shooting at King's Island.

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Re: Six Flags Over Texas History Q & A

Postby chadster » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:51 pm

I've heard rumors that SFOT is not 100% corporate owned. Is there any remote truth to that?

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Re: Six Flags Over Texas History Q & A

Postby thrillerman1 » Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:38 pm

cleusk wrote:The Dallas Morning News archives, the Fort Worth Star Telegram archives, Newsbank, Infotrac, online magazine articles, library collections, maps, photos, documents, handbooks, former employees, and web sites. I've self-published a book about SFOT, created a documentary about the park's origins, and about to embark on another endeavor soon. Those are my credentials.


Is the book available for purchase?

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