Alton Towers Discussion Thread

[Tycoon SawyerHoly crap you have a HUGE donkey!]

I think all the negative comments are stupid. At the end of the day and I'm gonna have to sound like a dick here. You have not been on it. I HAVE and I AM TELLING YOU don't judge it by the videos, it really is great. If you are going to judge it without going on it then your a complete fool.

[robbalveySite Admin]

^^ & ^ I think you guys just need to calm down.

There is always, ALWAYS going to be people who will formulate their opinions based on what they see.

I agree with you. Don't judge it until you've ridden it. I've seen videos of many rides that looked lame but it turns out that that ride was great (Toy Story Mania being a good example.)

Personally, I think the ride that is showcased in that video doesn't *WOW* me like all the hype said it would. The ride looks like a lot of fun, sure, but I didn't watch that video and go "OMFG! I can't believe how awesome that ride looks!!!"

If you say it is and that video doesn't do the ride justice, GREAT! I'm looking forward to riding it myself this summer and formulating my own opinions.

If the reaction from the video is creating a negative response, you can only blame Alton Towers for not releasing something that generates a more positive response. You can't blame everyone else for reacting to it.

Remember, people are reacting to the VIDEO that was released, not the ride itself. Let me say that again so it sinks in.

PEOPLE ARE REACTING TO THE VIDEO NOT THE RIDE ITSELF.

So please remember that before you go pointlessly name calling and yelling at a bunch of people on an internet forum.

--Robb

[netdvnWhy do I still have a donkey title???]

When are the muppets at Godawful Towers going to learn that yet another so called, over-hyped losely worded World's First is not what that park needs. They've been banging in exclusive after exclusive for year after year after year and with the exception of Nemesis the rest have been pretty tame. Instead of forking out for expensive gimmicks that someone else is going to do better a year or two later how about investing some of the cash that gets wasted on getting an exclusive deal in the park itself.

Isn't that the whole point of a prototype? You're not gonna have an extreme coaster that does incredible elements and intense transitions the first time around unless that's your goal. Thirteen doesn't look like it's going for something like that. It looks more like Alton's trying to focus more on the dark-ride portion and providing a more psychological thrill than a physical thrill like Nemesis.

On top of that, I'm pretty sure Alton can't build massive I305-sized projects due to height restrictions so they use prototype coasters like Oblivion, Air, and Thirteen to draw crowds in.

about actually working on the general areas that are supposedly themed but look more like a very amateur movie set.

You've obviously never been to a Cedar Fair park before.

Now as for the coaster itself, it actually looks like a lot of fun IMO. The complaints are predictable with every new coaster (see how much people bashed I305 when it was first announced). I'm pretty sure the reviews will be different once people actually get to experience the ride for themselves and not judge based on a video.

[Tycoon SawyerHoly crap you have a HUGE donkey!]

yeah, well said Robb.

Lison guys seriously. Just get down to Alton Towers and ride it! Its great!

[Chris Benvenuto2012+Mayan=BS!]

Another thing to bring up is how people bashed the deuce out of Maverick when it revealed in Winter of 2006. The reaction was the same, and it wasn't for all ages and was more of a family ride.

I saw a good, family ride out of the video. Sure, I may not ride it in the next couple year or I may not ride it in an entire lifetime. That's not the point, it looks like fun and it should be that way. Never judge a book by it's cover, or in this case, don't judge the coaster by a media POV.

[TheCoasterCriticShe turned me into a donkey! I got better...]

Tycoon Sawyer, can you describe the effects in the dark section a bit? Is that where it gets so scary that it warrants that silly age restriction?

[tiger01Jar-Jar Binks smells like Donkey]

I think its a great new addition to the park and another great family ride to go along with the newly rethemed sonic spinball and that kiddy dragon thing because all the other rides are massive (which isn't a criticism cause they look awesome) but i think that th13teen is a great new rollercoaster for 2010!!!

[usirocksit1I Guess Donkeys Are Okay]

5x^ "I drink your milkshake! I drink it up!"!!!!!

Kidding.. peace be with you ..

[robbalveySite Admin]

Isn't that the whole point of a prototype? You're not gonna have an extreme coaster that does incredible elements and intense transitions the first time around unless that's your goal.

Rides like Colossos, X2 and Xcelerator all prove that you CAN have a prototype that is also extreme. And really, Alton Towers' own Oblivion kind of proves that to. But you're right, if that's not your goal, that's not your goal. But there are plenty of examples out there where the prototype absolutely DID deliver on high thrills and "wow factor."

On top of that, I'm pretty sure Alton can't build massive I305-sized projects due to height restrictions so they use prototype coasters like Oblivion, Air, and Thirteen to draw crowds in.

And arguably, Oblivion and Air are the lowest ranked in their class by roller coaster enthusiasts. However, having said that, they do draw HUGE crowds and are favorites at the park.

Not trying to say you're right or wrong with your statements, just wanting to make sure you're looking at this from both sides of the coin.

--Robb

[snorkymnThe only thing better than a naked woman is a naked donkey!]

I guess in 13 weeks I'll be riding 13 and finding out for myself. From the video, It doesn't "WOW" me, as some others have also mentioned above, but looks like it could still be fun anyway. Especially for a family type coaster. So I'll wait to form a real opinion until after I've been on it a time or two.

How many riders can they really get through the ride in an hour with an element like that?