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Mountain/Alpine Coaster or Alpine Slide Discussion Thread

Postby packfanlv » Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:49 am

I just got back from the Great Wall of China at Badaling and believe this ride to be a roller coaster. To get up to the wall you take the car up a lift hill and to descend to the bottom they hook several cars together and run them down the mountain.

A few points:

The cars run on a coaster style track.

There is someone in the front car who applies brakes to keep it from going too fast, but the cars run down the hill completely on gravity.

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Postby larrygator » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:22 am

Shawn - It looks similar to other mountain coasters, but with attached cars and a very slow speed. There is one on the East Coast at Jiminy Peak in Massachusetts.

I say count it. Personally, I consider it a coaster even though it's is not currently listed on RCDB. It's gravity powered and runs on a track.

Then again Freefalls also are gravity powered on a track but I don't consider them coasters.
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Postby packfanlv » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:23 am

^Thanks Larry. I pretty much agree with your points and do consider it a coaster myself. I just thought it would be interesting to see what other enthusiasts think.

To help you make a decision here are a few pictures that I took. BTW does anyone know if this is listed on RCDB? I looked, but couldn't find it. If not I will email Duane to see why it isn't listed. Thanks!
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Lift hill going up to the wall.
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The track.
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Getting ready to go down.
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Heading out of the station at the top.
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Postby gk » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:33 am

Looks like an alpine slide on rails. :)

I believe this would be considered a gravity powered railroad, though, not a roller coaster.

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Postby packfanlv » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:36 am

^and what would be the distinction between the two? In other words what makes it a gravity powered train and not a roller coaster?
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Postby gk » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:43 am

^ Not much difference, but I'd say a "roller coaster" should have some amount of uphill travel & variation in speed along the run.

My personal feelings only, I don't care what other people call it, and I'd ride it anyway. :)

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Postby Rousfv » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:48 am

Yes i would say, this is not a flat ride

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Postby Vekoma Fan Boy » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:49 am

gk wrote:Looks like an alpine slide on rails. :)

I believe this would be considered a gravity powered railroad, though, not a roller coaster.


By definition all roller coasters ARE gravity powered railroads. Roller Coasters are specially built gravity powered railroads, strictly for amusement.

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Postby Liseberg4ever » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:49 am

It's look like a roller coaster!
So i say YES!

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Postby SharkTums » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:53 am

So this is at Badaling???

Is it new? We were planning on heading over to the Mutianyu area of the great wall where they have a 'traditional' alpine slide. But knowing the true credit whore nature of some people on our China Trip this may now be a better alternative!

A few questions before I make the decision to change it...

- How long was the line for this? I know that Badaling is the most famous area and usually VERY crowded.
- Did you notice if small children were allowed on (aka kidtums)?
- Cost?

Thanks for any help!

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