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Re: Kings Dominion (KD) Discussion Thread

Postby Highridin » Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:21 pm

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Aptz wrote:Well it's not Steel Vengeance but I guess it may be o.k. :|


Why is there a need to compare Twisted Timbers and Steel Vengence? They're both RMCs opening in 2018 yes but there is no point in letting a larger faster longer coaster overshadow another one. I'm not going to ride Apollo's Chariot at Busch Gardens and be bummed that it's not Intimidator 305 or El Toro. If you constantly think about how much better coaster x is than other coasters it makes the hobby a lot less fun for you. Just ride coasters and have fun.



100% this! A lot of enthusiasts spend so much time comparing every coaster to every other coaster they have been on that they completely forget just to have fun. This is one reason why I do not rank my coasters.


I agree 100%. Too many spend too much time comparing. Coaster vs coaster; park vs. park.
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Re: Kings Dominion (KD) Discussion Thread

Postby Fooz » Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:48 pm

This is a ridiculous airtime assault 5 feet off the ground.

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Re: Kings Dominion (KD) Discussion Thread

Postby Brashnir » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:15 am

I always knew Hurler had the potential to be a killer layout if the roughness was smoothed out by someone like RMC. Happy to be vindicated. Steel Vengeance looks insane too, but be happy a garbage ride is being replaced by a great ride at both parks, everyone.

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Re: Kings Dominion (KD) Discussion Thread

Postby cfc » Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:37 am

Brashnir wrote:I always knew Hurler had the potential to be a killer layout if the roughness was smoothed out by someone like RMC. Happy to be vindicated. Steel Vengeance looks insane too, but be happy a garbage ride is being replaced by a great ride at both parks, everyone.


Hurler was a good ride for its first season, but it beat itself to death (along with riders) as the years went by. So, I agree that the layout, when worked on by the right company, is a good one.
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Re: Kings Dominion (KD) Discussion Thread

Postby cal1br3tto » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:30 pm

^Since both Hurlers were immediate shoo-ins for my bottom 3 wooden coasters, I have a hard time believing either of them were ever good!
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Re: Kings Dominion (KD) Discussion Thread

Postby cfc » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:33 pm

^Let's just say that unlike a fine wine, Hurler did not improve with age. ;)
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Re: Kings Dominion (KD) Discussion Thread

Postby Jason Maier » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:07 pm

Which was rougher . . . Hurler or Anaconda?

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Re: Kings Dominion (KD) Discussion Thread

Postby djcoastermark » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:43 pm

^ Hurler. Anaconda has at least a few good moves.

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Re: Kings Dominion (KD) Discussion Thread

Postby bill_s » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:33 pm

cfc wrote:
Brashnir wrote:I always knew Hurler had the potential to be a killer layout if the roughness was smoothed out by someone like RMC. Happy to be vindicated. Steel Vengeance looks insane too, but be happy a garbage ride is being replaced by a great ride at both parks, everyone.


Hurler was a good ride for its first season, but it beat itself to death (along with riders) as the years went by. So, I agree that the layout, when worked on by the right company, is a good one.


I thought that the first season the lines were too long for it to be anything but a bit of letdown, however while I did like it my companions did not (or maybe that was also the wait time), so it was much later before I rode it again. The lack of popularity was a big factor in learning to ride it, and while I would never want to ride row 2 again, I ranked it at least as high as their other woodies and consider the insanity of it far more memorable. The new ride will probably be better overall, but it will never convey any aspect of a wooden coaster that felt like it was about explode into a million pieces. It will keep the aspect of the layout that the average speed is high compared to the peak, which is good.

As to aging, I think it was just too much for them. It was the late-comer that never fully met expectations and it probably got less maintenance than the others, despite wanting more. I know just before the last time they did track work and before they put the whopping huge trim brake on it (and slowly bled the giveacrap out of me concerning it) I was thinking it would be unrideable within a year if they didn't do something.

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Actually that picture was of the last curve and was not only not painful but one of the best curves ever built. It *felt* like the track stretched until about 2/3 of the way through the curve and then it sprung back and launched you out its exit. I was hoping that at least one of the original, flat, intense curves would remain just smoothed by better track, but with the higher drop and speed perhaps it would be too much -- but if that's true, how is there an inversion in the middle of the second turn?

I was hoping they'd somehow turn the first curve into a wave turn what with taking out the original structure all the way to the footers, but I think at the rate they're going all 3 low-to-the-ground turns will get that treatment. I do like there's one and only one reverse-banked curve at a really identifiable spot.

I hope we all can talk about the new ride without beating up on the old Hurler. Or at least I hope I can resist typing something into this thing every time the inevitable occurs. Sometimes it seems like people have more fun bashing a coaster than actually riding them. Yes, I know we just ride coasters for fun, but still when an enthusiast says something that they should know better it just makes them look bad, in my eyes.

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Re: Kings Dominion (KD) Discussion Thread

Postby jonskinny12 » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:56 pm

coasterbill wrote:Flight of Fear (which I love and find infinitely smoother and more enjoyable than the Kings Island version)


This was a couple pages back, but I'm curious about this. I've visited Kings Island twice in the last three years and really loved Flight of Fear there. I thought it was really smooth and a blast, especially riding in the front. It has been probably 17 years since my last visit to Kings Dominion but I want to make a trip out to it in the next few years, timing probably depends on what that tall thing is that BGW is building.

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