jmccalip Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 So they are a little rougher, big deal. I think the layout is superior to BTR's. The first inversion is really disorientating and interesting, and the inline twist is AWESOME. It really makes the ride IMO. The foot choppers it provides are mind blowing, much more so than BTR. You even catch a little air on the hill by the station. BTR in comparison just seemed kind of boring. Two loops and two cork screws? Come on, where's the variety? It was also so smooth that it felt like we were just floating along. Combine that with a boring layout, and a zero G roll that just whips you through it with no airtime, and it's not gonna be high up on the charts for me. Anyone feel the same way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebl Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I think Batman is more intense, which is what a lot of people like. (Me, not so much.) B&M certainly has a leg up on Vekoma when it comes to smoothness, which is also what a lot of people like. (Me, definitely.) For me, it's the B&M inverted over the Vekoma SLC. Hands down. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bspellx5 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 If B & M made an invert with the SLC layout I wonder what'd be like. Amazing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themeparkman25 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 B&M Zero G Roll > Everything else. Using that reasoning, BTR > SLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLERLC1 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Batman: The Ride looks plain evil with its darkness, low to the ground intense ride. SLC stands little chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 The only Vekoma SLC that I can say I really liked was Kumali, and that was a custom model. I much prefer the Batman clones to your average SLC, but to each his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFORCE Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 When comparing only layouts and disregarding the roughness, manufacturers, and everything else, I'd have to give the SLC the edge. I like it's layout better than the one on BTR clones. However, because of the companies who build them, and when smoothness, train design, etc. is all taken into account, I think that the BTR clones are FAR superior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcdude Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I think Batman the Ride is much better than an SLC. It's about the same size but is at least twice as forceful and doesn't have any slow moments. It is also much smoother and is actually re-ridable. That being said, I think if B&M made an inverted coaster with the SLC layout, it would probably be a great ride. I like the layout of an SLC, just not the experience. However, that isn't very likely to happen so for now BTR is better than an SLC. Also, as a side note, I've only been on the BTR at SFMM and the SLC at SFDK. I've heard there are smoother SLCs that might be a better ride, but I haven't got the chance to try one yet. Maybe if I find a smooth SLC my opinion will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginzo Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Riding a SLC is about as much fun as getting an IRS audit while a gang of midgets smashes your testicles with a hammer. One and done for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Anyone else prefer Vekoma SLC's? Not me! No way! Not even close! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb297 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Has anyone here ridden Jubilleee Odyssey? That is one giant*ss loop. http://www.rcdb.com/1413.htm According to Wiki, it cost 28 million to build. That is more than most or all B&M inverts. This figure seems high, so it may not be true. Apparently, its Cobra Roll was so big that the coaster sometimes stalled on it, not making it out of the other side. And I have been on three SLC's. One sucked (T2), and two were pretty good (Serial Thriller at SFWOA and Gauntlet at Magic Springs), with Serial Thriller being the superior. B:TR at SFSTL is superior to all three, but I rode Serial Thriller awhile back, so its a tough comparison. SLC's do have a lower height requirement, which is a nice plus. The capacity is much worse however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHN916 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I'll take B:TR. SLCs are one ride credits for me now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoshiFan Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I would take BTR over a SLC anyday. Even the new trains don't help Great Nor'Easter. No headbanging but it shuffles along the track the entire time which is at times worse than the headbanging with the old restraints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Clear Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I prefer Batmen to SLCs, but the two I've been on were a little more intense than what I prefer. I like "easier" inverts like Silver Bullet, Montu, and Top Flight Burner Deck (Carowinds). And yes, the B&M zero G is the best steel coaster element ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBru Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Nope. Just adding to what everyone else has said, B:TR also has excellent pacing and is a non-stop, forceful ride. An SLC, on the other hand, has terrible pacing. It consistently slows down and speeds up (which causes the roughness/headbanging), and the only forces are awkward ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchboogie3 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Is this a joke? I hate most clones, but I actually DO like the B:TR layouts. How could you say it's a boring layout? It's amazingly intense and is element after awesome element. Loop followed by the typically awesome B&M Zero-G-Roll, another disorienting loop. Then it has a great, forceful, helix, turn around into a forceful flat spin, quick turn into another disorienting flatspin over the vertical loop and swooping into the brakes. Sounds awesome to me. SLC's have an alright layout, but it is not very forceful, has way to many weak spots, and they can be so rough you feel like you got thrown into a UFC match. So, if you like quality, intense, smooth rides, B&M is a no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I rode my first "Batman" 15 years ago. At the end of the ride I was like "OMFG WOW!" 15 years later at the end of a Batman ride I'm usually still all "OMFG WOW!" When I ride an SLC, I'm usually all "OMFG OW!!!" --Robb "One letter makes a HUGE difference!" Alvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsterfan99 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Simple - B:TR clones have never hurt me. SLC's can not say the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreditCrazy Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I love everything about Batman clones...and hate everything about Vekoma SLC's. Really, if I were to make a list of all 126 roller coasters I've been on, you would find Batman The Ride at SFMM near the top and Kong and T2 at the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Ive never been on an slc, but it would probably kill me cause I hate dejavu and some say it is smooth. Batman on the other hand is everything I like in a coaster, its really fast, I love the zero g(and really any other type of inversion) and the only B&M I ever hut my head on was scream, wuch was probably the lightest headbang ever. B&M>Vekoma Enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UberBeavis Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I'm sure chiropractors and personal injury attorneys prefer Vekoma SLCs to B&M Inverted coasters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Random funny SLC Story... So a group of us was just in Northern Japan and our last day, our last park had eight credits. We all split up into at least 4 smaller groups...EVERY SINGLE GROUP saved the SLC for last in case we 'didn't have time' or it 'broke down'. It was pretty funny that we all did this without even knowing. I'm sorry, but even the best of the SLC's is still not rerideable. I agree with others though, put some B&M Design/Equipment into that layout and it could be really awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knottslover77 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Batman. SLC i've only been on Kong... worst pain/ride ever. --Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capitalize Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 The comparison as I see it: SLC - Horrifically rough, among the roughest coasters in existence. Some minor forces exist and some of the elements are pretty neat, and the foot-choppers are really awesome. However, it is still ridiculously rough. BTR - Mostly very smooth, especially considering their age (for the older models). Awesome positive g's that can at times make me black out (SFOG's BTR made me black out while sitting in the back almost every time during the second vertical loop and the 3/4 helix turn after it). A fast, compact, relentless ride experience. For me there is no competition, BTR wins every time. Even on Geauga Lake's SLC (now at Michigan's Adventure) which was incredibly smooth I didn't think it was nearly as good as a BTR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_Behemoth_Lady_Jess Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 On any day no way would I ever prefer Kong and Canadian Flight Deck over B:TR. B:TR is way smoother and has alot more good views. The SLC's I find because of the compact nature make you feel like you're just going around in circles. As for the G's, they're both all pretty strong. They all made me really dizzy afterwards. One thing which B:TR does that I find quite neat is how the flatspins/corkscrews give you a good "whip" into the inversion even though it gives me a headache. Which SLC can do that? ~ Jess "I get airsick, seasick and I guess coastersick?" Chan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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