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Re: The Knott's Berry Farm (KBF) Discussion Thread

Postby MayTheGForceBeWithYou » Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:08 am

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anonymouscactus wrote:I still think its a weird idea though. I know that it's probably going to be a large space, but running into people and walls seems very plausible.

Maps can be created in multiple game engines that could match the room's dimensions, pretty much every online game can render other player's positions, and if everyone is on one local connection, rendering the environment and other players' positions can be done in almost real time.

It basically sounds like a VR LAN party. Done right, could be a really fun and interesting take on a rather old concept.
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Postby DoubleDown » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:24 am

Does anybody here think VR is really ever going to take off?

I know the parks dig it because it's a cheap attraction they can play off as something cool, but does anyone actually really like it?

All this VR crap is making me sick, not only because it's such a stupid gimmick, but also because I don't care for it at all. It's not needed and I don't recall anyone complaining that there's not enough VR in the world. It seems like some cool 80's or 90's concept that companies keep trying to push but always falls short. It is all just a major inconvenience that for some reason the parks are believing is increasing attendance, but I just can't believe that is the case.

Instead of throwing VR on a coaster to screw up ride times, Knott's went with this.

It seems so stupid to me.

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Postby boldikus » Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:03 am

coasterbill wrote:So am I correct in assuming that by "free-roaming" there will now be people with phones strapped to their faces running around main guest midways in Ghost Town shooting invisible robots and dodging invisible bullets? :lol:

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Hilarious.

DoubleDown wrote:Does anybody here think VR is really ever going to take off?

Depends on what you mean by "take off". If you mean are multiple major park chains going to implement it in at least a few (or in some cases almost all) of their parks? Or that its spread now to international parks? Because that has already happened. In that sense I'd say its taken off. If you mean are guests going to eventually go gaga for it? I don't think that will ever happen with VR, at least not the same way a giant shiny new coaster would.

I think what we're seeing now is parks responding to guest complaints about wait times since it seems like with this (or SFOG doing it on a drop tower, or CP doing it only at certain times/with reservation) parks are at least trying to find the balance of adding this "cheap new attraction" without mucking up too much of the guest experience.

I completely understand the appeal of adding this from a parks perspective - its a super cheap and very *now* way to market something new to get people through the gates. And as long as its not on major coasters or rides that might normally have greater wait times, I have no problem with it. For instance with it on Skull Mountain @ GreatAdv last year, it seemed like a good fit. Ride never has major lines, its pretty high capacity to begin with, and its a completely pitch black ride perfect for adding graphics to. I think its a great, cheap way to get ridership up on older, not-so-popular-anymore rides, but when you're adding it to star attractions of the park like the hyper @ SFNE you're just gonna piss a lot of people off.
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Re: The Knott's Berry Farm (KBF) Discussion Thread

Postby eugjackson » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:25 am

DoubleDown wrote:Does anybody here think VR is really ever going to take off?

I know the parks dig it because it's a cheap attraction they can play off as something cool, but does anyone actually really like it?

All this VR crap is making me sick, not only because it's such a stupid gimmick, but also because I don't care for it at all. It's not needed and I don't recall anyone complaining that there's not enough VR in the world. It seems like some cool 80's or 90's concept that companies keep trying to push but always falls short. It is all just a major inconvenience that for some reason the parks are believing is increasing attendance, but I just can't believe that is the case.

Instead of throwing VR on a coaster to screw up ride times, Knott's went with this.

It seems so stupid to me.


Many people like VR. It's huge among the younger demos, gamers, etc... It's like Justice League, I don't come to a amusement park to wait an hour or more to play a video game. But, many people do and the JL line is mostly kids. It will be interesting to see how JL's popularity holds up 5 to 10+ years down the line. They cost 10-12M so SF surely view them as a longer term investment, while VR is cheap so if it doesn't work out you have lost very little.

I think VR on drop towers could be better than coasters on a operations basis. Most drop rides don't have long lines so slower dispatch isn't a line clogger like if you put it on an even less popular coaster at the park. VR should never be done on a already popular coaster IMO. VR is typically been done on the less popular coasters at a park as an inexpensive way to revitalize it.

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Postby Hilltopper39 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:34 am

DoubleDown wrote:Does anybody here think VR is really ever going to take off?



I still have yet to try a VR ride in the park but I am interested and looking forward to trying it whenever I have the opportunity.


With that being said I am getting kind of tired of all of the VR advertising in everyday media, seems like "the man" is trying to shove this technology into your brain every chance it gets. Chik-Fil-A had a commercial teasing some kind of Chik-Fil-A Cow VR for goodness sake, Chik-Fil A! I don't want it, I give you $4 and change, you give me a spicy chicken plain no pickles add pepper jack cheese, end of transaction, no VR necessary!

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Postby thrillseeker4552 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:19 pm

Interesting. Knott's really has a lot of stuff coming this year.

Virtual reality is not really my thing after trying it on a few coasters, but at least they didn't throw it on a coaster. This will definitely take place in the laser tag/arcade arena, not actual Ghost Town. That's the last thing the park would want to do after emphasizing its historical significance with Ghost Town Alive and all that this summer.
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Postby Arthur_Seaton » Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:24 pm

It is nice to see these VR "experiences" being moved off of rides. Hopefully other parks will follow suit and will quarantine the tech into storage sheds, backlots, and walled-in areas and whatnot. I still think parks should implement VR in rest rooms, as that makes about as much sense as ruining the fundamental experience of a coaster in addition to decimating its capacity.

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Re: The Knott's Berry Farm (KBF) Discussion Thread

Postby cfc » Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:44 am

Some coasters can benefit from VR (the two family coasters as Europa come to mind), but I like it that Knott's is going for more of an "arcade" style attraction. They could adapt it for Haunt, too.
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Postby SoCalJasonland » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:10 am

Arthur_Seaton wrote:It is nice to see these VR "experiences" being moved off of rides. Hopefully other parks will follow suit and will quarantine the tech into storage sheds, backlots, and walled-in areas and whatnot. I still think parks should implement VR in rest rooms, as that makes about as much sense as ruining the fundamental experience of a coaster in addition to decimating its capacity.


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Re: The Knott's Berry Farm (KBF) Discussion Thread

Postby VegasBaby » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:38 pm

Knott's has posted all of the Boysenberry Festival food options on their website and there are a bunch of new offerings for 2017. They have also changed up the $25 tasting card and added a few of the new items. I'm really glad that they extended the festival to 3 weeks long, so I'll be able to hit it at least twice this year. If you've never been during the Boysenberry Festival, then you should definitely check it out!
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