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Postby pacoasterrider » Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:50 pm

i agree with the location.

No one in the Mid Atlantic (New York, Phily, Baltimore, DC) wants to pay all the money to travel to South Carolina. It costs to much flying and gas is way to much. Our family for example used to go to Myrtle Beach, but now with how much that would cost to drive, we just go to Ocean City or a more local beach. Local beaches are striving. You can't tell there's any dip in tourism in places like Ocean City NJ or MD, Atlantic City, or Rehobeth.

Im sure people in Florida don't want to waste the money to drive up to SC to go to Myrtle Beach, when they have their own beaches there.

It would be the perfect park in the Mid-Atlantic. Every park with the exception of SFA strives around here. Hardly any competition if they place it in a location like Ocean City Md. or even Rehobeth or Atlantic City. Philly, Baltimore, NYC, and Washington DC are all within reasonable drives of those areas

And heck, im not paying 50 bucks to only ride one quality coaster and a few flats. Rip-Off.

I would second guess paying $30 for a visit there.

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Postby SFAfan#1 » Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:54 pm

^SFA might not be up there with KD, BGE, HP, etc. but we were getting there back in 2001 lol (right after Batwing, Superman, Jokers Jinx, and Two Face opened. 1999-2001)

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Postby cathyJ » Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:02 pm

pacoasterrider wrote:i agree with the location.

No one in the Mid Atlantic (New York, Phily, Baltimore, DC) wants to pay all the money to travel to South Carolina. It costs to much flying and gas is way to much. Our family for example used to go to Myrtle Beach, but now with how much that would cost to drive, we just go to Ocean City or a more local beach. Local beaches are striving. You can't tell there's any dip in tourism in places like Ocean City NJ or MD, Atlantic City, or Rehobeth.

Im sure people in Florida don't want to waste the money to drive up to SC to go to Myrtle Beach, when they have their own beaches there.

It would be the perfect park in the Mid-Atlantic. Every park with the exception of SFA strives around here. Hardly any competition if they place it in a location like Ocean City Md. or even Rehobeth or Atlantic City. Philly, Baltimore, NYC, and Washington DC are all within reasonable drives of those areas

And heck, im not paying 50 bucks to only ride one quality coaster and a few flats. Rip-Off.

I would second guess paying $30 for a visit there.


Forgot one...Kings Dominon !!!

Fredericksburg, VA is considered a suberb of DC and that city is only one hour away from Kings Dominion.

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Postby FeelTheFORCE » Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:14 pm

pacoasterrider wrote:i agree with the location.

No one in the Mid Atlantic (New York, Phily, Baltimore, DC) wants to pay all the money to travel to South Carolina. It costs to much flying and gas is way to much. Our family for example used to go to Myrtle Beach, but now with how much that would cost to drive, we just go to Ocean City or a more local beach. Local beaches are striving. You can't tell there's any dip in tourism in places like Ocean City NJ or MD, Atlantic City, or Rehobeth.


Yeah, people aren't going to drive all the way down to Myrtle when they can just go to VA Beach, or a similar place farther north, closer to home, and, as you said, mostly everyone south of Myrtle has their own beach locally.
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Postby Jcoaster » Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:26 pm

The park always looks dead. Every picture I see the park looks lifeless. Also there looks to be no shade in the entire place.
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Postby pacoasterrider » Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:51 pm

I dont know if im alone here, and I know it's early but they should of atleast built another big coaster. One big coaster isn't enough to make the enthusiast or the GP coaster riders come back. The park is theemed to be "edgey, rock and roll, and for teens and thrill seekers" And they have one noteable coaster. 100 years ago that would work, but not anymore.

People won't come back after only riding Zep. That's the other downfall of the park I think.

Cedar Point, SFMM, SFGADV, Kings Island, Hershey Park, SFOG, Kings Dominiton, BGA are all within reasonable driving distances of huge cities. This park isn't.

South Carolina, North Carolina, and Georgia are no where near the top of the list of most populated areas, and with the state the park is in now then no one will be repeating a visit or visiting at all (cite http://www.prb.org/Datafinder/Topic/Bar ... riable=395)

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Postby tnguy » Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:51 pm

The park isn't even in a very good location in Myrtle Beach. Its a fairly good drive from the real center of the area. Families don't want to waste more gas to get out there, and then have to pay $50.

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Postby MattyD » Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:25 am

If they are going to succeed then what they need is a resort!

A hotel or two, a 'Downtown Disney' or 'City Walk' type area, a few restaurants, a water park etc. From what I have gathered there is very little else to attract people to that area so if they are going to succeed they need to make sure they have plenty of stuff to attract the masses!

I haven't seen any advertising at any of the Hard Rock Cafe's either, let alone at Travel Agents or anything like that, but that's the problem, until it's a proper destination then they can't justify advertising it around the world because the tourists just won't come! However if I was to look in a Virgin brochure and see holidays advertised (like they are for Disney and Universal Resorts in Florida) for the Hard Rock Resort then I would fly there just for that.

It comes down to, Marketing and Location as everyone is saying, good marketing will help but you also need to be in a location people will want to travel too, and people won't travel long distances just for one park!

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Postby carolinacaniac » Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:32 am

pacoasterrider wrote:South Carolina, North Carolina, and Georgia are no where near the top of the list of most populated areas, and with the state the park is in now then no one will be repeating a visit or visiting at all (cite http://www.prb.org/Datafinder/Topic/Bar ... riable=395)


The only problem with that is the fact that all three of those states are in the top half for the nation, and those numbers are based on a per square mile basis. That just tells you how dense of a population there is in that area. The District of Columbia is hardly the most populated state/district in the nation, it just has a lot of people in a small area.

I will agree though that Myrtle Beach wasn't the best choice of location. There really isn't a major city within a short distance of it where as the other major parks usually have an hour or less driving distance to the nearest major city.
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Postby YJG(Ride On) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:39 am

I think they should have built HRP in the mid-west. There really isn't a whole lot of amusement parks in states like Iowa, Missouri, Kansas, etc. I know it probably wouldn't fit there, but a central location and a lot of marketing could make this a nice park.

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