Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby bgtlover » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:48 pm

Vortex can rot in hell...lol
Seriously though, it was my least liked coaster in the park. It's crazy I enjoyed all the Vekoma's more than that aging Arrow creation. I appreciate the history and look of it, as it's very picturesque. There are a lot of pretty coasters that are just horrible in regards to rider experience...Vortex is at the top of that list for me.
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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby joelwee » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:39 pm

Vortex wasn't anything mind-blowing, but I didn't think it was that bad in terms of roughness. Same with Invertigo.
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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby Ed Farmer » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:48 pm

Invertigo to Dorney
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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby DorneyKid14 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:03 pm

Ed Farmer wrote:Invertigo to Dorney


not happening.
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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby joelwee » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:07 pm

DorneyKid14 wrote:
Ed Farmer wrote:Invertigo to Dorney


not happening.

Why not? They can put it up in Stinger's spot during the off-season, and when opening day rolls around next year, they'll be like, "Psych!!"
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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby Intamin_coyote » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:08 pm

Even though Vortex's popularity has been declining gradually over the years, it still give more rides than people think (it's a people eater - so yes there will be many times when it's a straight walk-on, but lines don't necessarily indicate ridership!)

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As of 2014, it still got over 1m riders.

Granted, it's probably well below that by now, but I could imagine its still in the 750k range.

As far as I know, Arrow loopers are among the most inexpensive coasters to operate (as is most sit-down coasters with a traditional chain lift.)

Whatever Vortex's ridership is now, I still don't think the yearly total operating cost / # of riders is high enough to justify its removal.
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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby SFOG1991 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:22 pm

Intamin_coyote wrote:Even though Vortex's popularity has been declining gradually over the years, it still give more rides than people think (it's a people eater - so yes there will be many times when it's a straight walk-on, but lines don't necessarily indicate ridership!)

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As of 2014, it still got over 1m riders.

Granted, it's probably well below that by now, but I could imagine its still in the 750k range.

As far as I know, Arrow loopers are among the most inexpensive coasters to operate (as is most sit-down coasters with a traditional chain lift.)

Whatever Vortex's ridership is now, I still don't think the yearly total operating cost / # of riders is high enough to justify its removal.

Where does that ridership info come from? I love that.

Anyway, I generally agree with you but I also know most of the Arrow mega-loopers have been removed in recent years so I wonder if they just have a shelf life due to their design. I mean honestly couldn’t it come down to how thick the tubular steel track is or something as simple as that? At a certain point a steel coaster requires retracking or removal and obviously due to cost most just get removed. I wish they could just replace track easily like a wooden coaster.

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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby Geauga Dog » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:43 am

I don't think it's for Invertigo. At least that ride is much more reliable than Stinger ever was. Besides, in order to make way for a "gate coaster" you have to do something with Bat and the old Timber Wolf site.

I have a feeling it could be Vortex and it would make sense if it is closing in 2018 to make way for what's coming in 2020. Kings Island has needed to focus on livening up that back corner of Coney Mall. Losing Vortex would be sad but given my last rides on it back in July I think it's time to retire it.

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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby ytterbiumanalyst » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:49 am

Thanks for the ridership table, really helps put things in perspective.

I like Vortex and Invertigo just fine. Neither is getting me to go to the park, but I ride both while I'm there and enjoy them. If they were to remove either one, I wouldn't shed a tear, especially if they get something as good as their last 3 coasters.
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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby coasterbill » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:53 am

Interesting...

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