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Postby CoastersNSich » Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:50 pm

I would like to see how much of the general public is going to criticize how this coaster compares to other B&M hypers. Knowing how the economy is in Ohio, I doubt many in Kings Island's super region have ridden Behemoth, Nitro, Goliath, Raging Bull, or Apollo's Chariot.

While it's easy to point out how B&M is copying elements of other coasters, we're seeing the first splashdown not on a Busch Gardens dive machine. The ride also travels over the midway, with the return portion very close to the midway, hovering over the Crypt and Beast plazas - very photogenic. It uses the best of both worlds - prominently placed while tucked into the woods at the same time.

Besides, there's been a large amount of people - even those who don't consider themselves coaster freaks - who have been wanting Kings Island to build a ride like this. The combination of speed, height, airtime, length and capacity is indisputable. Also, it greatly utilizes the park's terrain, which has helped to make The Beast so great. The coaster has a bit of gimmick to it, but it won't be overly reliant upon the gimmick to make it a great ride.

Diamondback may not be the most unique hyper in the world, but it's nice for me not having to drive to Chicago, Williamsburg, Jackson NJ, or Atlanta just to ride a B&M hyper.
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Postby Kennyweird » Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:50 pm

While I must agree with Scaparri, B&M isn't building many of those cutting edge, awesome coasters they were building a few years ago, I also agree with yankees15 in that, quite frankly, B&M hasn't been asked to do anything cutting edge by their customers for quite some time. I think right now parks are content with building what's tried and proven and are not really into building anything too groundbreaking, like they were a few years ago.

As far as Diamondback goes, I think, as unoriginal as it may be, it will be a great ride and may persuade me to visit KI next year.
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Postby dragonskeep » Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:54 pm

Diamondback looks pretty cool to me, granted I haven't been on any B&M hypers. Is Intamin building any rides in the states anymore? I would think if SROS and Ge Force are constantly 1&2 why wouldn't more parks want them? Are they more expensive or less reliable? B&M is buiding a ton of rides, Getting orders for more than they can produce. I am more a fan of Intamin, but what gives?

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Postby bgeguy » Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:55 pm

This is a little old, but I didn't think the GP was this bad. Watch the video. http://www.wlwt.com/entertainment/16980851/detail.html

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Postby CoasterFanatic » Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:02 pm

B&M makes high-profit, extremely-popular, highly-marketable, low-maintenance, high-capacity, and fun coasters.

Maybe they are doing it all wrong.
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Postby Wes » Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:03 pm

For those complaining about the lack of originality, which B&M hypers were so totally original? They're all hills, turns, and helixes.
I think the layout is v. good, I really don't see why anyone is complaining.

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Postby yankees15 » Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:11 pm

CoastersNSich wrote:While it's easy to point out how B&M is copying elements of other coasters, we're seeing the first splashdown not on a Busch Gardens dive machine. The ride also travels over the midway, with the return portion very close to the midway, hovering over the Crypt and Beast plazas - very photogenic. It uses the best of both worlds - prominently placed while tucked into the woods at the same time.


I believe Dive Coaster at chimelong paradise also has a splashdown. I am curious to see a splashdown on a hyper though. With the long trains it will look much different.

I also like how the first drop is right towards the midway. That will give great views on and off the ride.

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Postby pgathriller » Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:14 pm

Diamondback loos kick A$$. Some people just complain too much :roll: . Be happy, the economy sucks and a park is building a 22 million dollar coaster which you won't see as frequently.

Seriously guys come on :roll:
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Postby ginzo » Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:15 pm

Wes wrote:I really don't see why anyone is complaining.


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Postby dragsterfan420 » Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:19 pm

Wes wrote:For those complaining about the lack of originality, which B&M hypers were so totally original? They're all hills, turns, and helixes.
I think the layout is v. good, I really don't see why anyone is complaining.


Ditto. Hyper's can't really get that "unique." B&M loopers, floorless, inverted, twisters, are much more capable of being unique because they can do more. Everyone stop sayin' this "sucks" 'cause you just don't know yet. I highly doubt any B&M hyper would "suck". This coaster is just about amile long, flies through the woods, has a water splash, and has a pretty great layout. Just stop judging from the animated videos. THose are know to look slow. Plus they don't account for the wait of the average passenger.
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