Shane's Amusement Attic

[verticalzeroDon't make me kick you in the donkey!]

The "Bat" did look a fun ride for it's time and I thought "Top Gun" had extreme swinging.

"Vampire" at Chessington (England) has improved with age and the floorless cars make the flying even better esp the 2nd 1/2 when it dives into a tunnel. I have not been on BBW, the 2nd drop looks pure fun over the lake.

If anything on the "Beast" could be changed, what would it be..

I think the "Brake Run" shed on the Beast should not be as long as it is, KI could remove / shorten it, add some floating hills and a figure of 8 helix before hitting the underground / overground tunnel.

[montezooma"Can I get clamshells out of this ATM?"]

I have updated the Boardwalk & Baseball - Circus World page with a bunch of information, facts, post cards, maps, press releases, and souvenir book from Circus World. Go to the link below to see all this great stuff on this park of the past.

Circus World

[RIP PsycloneBanned]

I know you've probably been on several Arrow launched loops (what they're called on rcdb), so what do you think of them compared to Schwarzkopf shuttle loops? "Montezooma" is a pretty good hint as to which you prefer, but a launch into a drop looks like it would be fun too! Thanks for the Circus World updates, that's what reminded me.

[eblTPR's Olden Goldie]

"Not sure what it has to do with the Bat ride but there ya go..." (PURE)

Nothing, except for the fact that X and The Bat were both Arrow creations.

Eric

[PUREBanned]

^Guess that's a good enough reason for me!

[montezooma"Can I get clamshells out of this ATM?"]

THey each have their good points but the Schwarzkopf has no bad points and the Arrow version has several.

Schwarzkopf Shuttle Loop Positives:
- Great launch
- Great loop and great sensations both forwards and backwards
- Instant change in motion from forward to backward.
- Great finale, up that back tower at such a steep angle and then a rush back into the station.
- Lap bars.
- Their popularity has withstood the test of time.
- They just look extremely cool!

Scwharzkopf Shuttle Loop Negatives:
-Not enough of them

Arrow Launched Loop Positives:
- Great airtime after the launch into the drop both forwards and backwards.
- Great airtime at the top of the hill on the reverse side if you are in the front of the train. If you are in the rear of the train it happens on the return trip.
- They kind of look cool (I am struggling to come up with more positives)

Arrow Launched Loop Negatives:
-The climb both up and down.
- Weak launch. It was kind of like being pulled by a team of Donkeys.
- Arrow loops just don't do it for me. They are small and to clothoid-ee.
- The slow braking on the other side and then the wait for the reverse launch. Talk about a buzz kill
- Because they were so high in the sky they always had ugly stations. 8' tall chain link and no shade cover.
- They didn't stand the test of time too well.
- Over the shoulder restraints.

[Team ThrillerSlightly racist and terrible at poetry]

^
I know a positive one. I haven't been on to many of them.
Really though, they might not be as good as the Shcwarzkopf ones,
but they are okay.

Anyway, you covered pretty much all the negitives and positive matters.

--James

[eblTPR's Olden Goldie]

Just an interesting note: Montezooma's Revenge at Knott's is the only Schwarzkopf shuttle in the U.S. that still operates in its original location---30 years this year, in fact.

I don't know about ones in Europe or Asia.

Eric

[RIP PsycloneBanned]

How about the weight drop models not being quite as good as the flywheels? Or is the difference too miniscule? I was at Great America and I believe I chose not to ride Greased Lightnin' because I had already been on Montezooma's Revenge. I really wish I had known better.

And I think out of the 8 currently operating in the world, only 4 are in their original location. Too bad you guys on the Japan trip missed the one at Toshimaen.

[eblTPR's Olden Goldie]

^ There is a definite difference between the earlier weight-drop models and the later flywheel ones. In my own experience, I find the flywheel launch to be a bit quicker. Of course, on those, the trains aren't braked on their way back through the station as the weight-drop ones were.

Also, if you notice, there's a slightly longer stretch of straight track behind the station leading to the back hill---perhaps that's one reason why trains aren't braked there.

Eric