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Postby Flight Attendant » Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:11 am

You're right! unfortunately how many people read the back of the ticket? (guess would apply at all parks, even DLR)

Legally however, and again unfortunately, lawyers would argue the same point...no one pays attention to the back of the ticket... unless they have them sign it...right?
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Postby coasters 4 me » Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:30 pm

Hicko wrote:Just heard on the Radio here in the UK making it sound like a massive major disaster or something. :roll:


Yeah, I was at the Shopping Centre (Mall) and it was on the sound system thing. It was on Radio 1.
The accident wasnt even in our country!!! Why are they making it sound so big?!?
Ok, yeah, it is a very popular park and it is Disney but at least no-one was killed or severly injured. Isnt that the good thing?
So why are they making it so big, even though it was a minor accident? Just because Disney has an Accident but I am sure if Six Flags or something had the same thing, it wouldnt be on the news here. Sure Kingda Ka bust and wasnt on the news. Maybe it wasnt on the news in America.

Are they making it a big deal because it is just Disney?
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Postby Flight Attendant » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:07 pm

Bottom line...it's DIsney. Anytime anything happens at a Disney resort, it's big news to the media.

Just spoke to a cast member that was there last night. It really was no a huge thing to be worried about. Yes there was a problem, but the severity of the impact was very minor. There was an"over-reaction" to the needed response, but inthe times that we live in now...anything that can be construed to be anything... will be.
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Postby maliboomer » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:38 pm

Next week someone will get very sick after riding Soarin' and say it was the water from the river scene.
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Postby Flight Attendant » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:52 pm

NO not Soarin"! ...LOL

Actually, they might complain that the scents used inside of the attraction set off someones allergies, making them get a perscription!

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It set off a latent form of acrophobia...and now they must seek out a Pychologist!
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Postby Wes » Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:03 pm

Or they thought they were going to get hit by that CG golfball, causing severe emotional trauma.
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Postby coaster1 » Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:18 pm

SharkTums wrote:THANK YOU COASTER1!!!

If this was like a braking, sensor, computer issues, I don't believe that it's Intamin's fault either! Don't they have another company do all that stuff?


They may have an outside source, but my experience working for a park, the ET (Electric Technicians, or Electrians) were responsible for maintenance of the PLC. One of the ET's at SFOT rewrote the entire system for the Oil Derrick, Runaway Mountain, Mr Freeze, Log Flumes and Titan from scratch. Then again, Disney may out source like some compaines, but Allan-Bradley and the other PLC people came by once a year to check up on the system.
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Postby SharkTums » Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:29 am

From the NBC4 LA news 2 minutes ago:

'Investigators believe that operator error or a computer glitch caused the accident that sent 15 people to the hospital"

Now granted the news has been way off before, but this seems to confirm what we thought! Maybe maintenance should have been paying more attention to DCA than glitzing up Disneyland for the 50th! :lol:
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Postby CoasterFanatic » Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:02 am

^ From my microscopic knowledge of block braking, there are only three scenarios where trains can collide.

- Brake Failure (Very Rare, and doesn't CS use MAGNETICS)
- Computer Glitch (Even More Rare)
- Manual Reset (Almost always the case)

Operator error would lead me to believe "Manual Reset". From what I had gathered after the BTMR incident. "Manual Resets" are pretty common at Disney, because of the high pace that they operate their rides.
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Postby USCoaster » Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:55 am

CA Screamin's programing has been changed to prevent the ride-ops from doing a manual reset (by switching to maintenance mode) since cast previews in 2000/2001 when a similar accident almost occurred. A friend of mine who used to be a lead on Screamin' prevented the previous accident and said that the reason it almost happened was when they switched over to maintenance mode, the sensors lost the train sitting in the same block section the train was sitting in this time. Luckily, someone noticed and e-stopped the ride before the train hit the block before the helix.

Based on his knowledge of the ride system, he believes there is no way operator error was the cause. And based on the speed of the train (resulting in the "bump") The block brake before the helix would have had to completely stopped the train as it passed through it, and then released it. Otherwise, there would be a lot more damage.
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