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Postby robbalvey » Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:24 am

benzo41190 wrote:Well doesnt that ride have 5 trains? So it seems like it is pretty likely to happen.

That statement makes no sense at all. A Wild Mouse can run like 10 trains so does that mean they should be crashing into each other all the time? So are you trying to claim that rides with more than 2 or 3 trains are less safe?

So before people go trying to group this into an Intamin problem, try to make some kind of statements without any facts, maybe we should all wait for some official news before making statements that don't offer anything to anyone regarding the accident.

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Postby coasters 4 me » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:35 am

I was reading an earlier post, and what happened to TOT? I heard rumors when on holiday that someone died on TOT, is this what happened?

Disney seem to be having alot of accidents lately.

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Postby pvcoasterguy » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:47 am

While it seems like Disney has been having quite a few accidents lately, look at the types of ones that have been happening. Most of them are very isolated (effect one person) and not the ride's fault. (That goes for the Mission: Space and ToT.) This accident is a more major one; thank god that no one is hurt too badly.

It will probably take a while to reopen the ride, given the California court ruling regarding 'common carriers.'

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Postby coaster1 » Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:54 am

The question is how did the train that hit leave and enter the next block with the other train on the first set of brakes, that shouldn't happen.

INTAMIN wouldn't be to blame as they do not program the PLC, which is responsible for the blocking system. Therefore Allen-Bradley or whoever made the PLC, would be at fault for PLC failure if this is the case since they are the responsible parties .. well them and Disney, since Disney's ET's are responsible for PLC maintenance as well.

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Postby disneygurlz2s » Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:11 am

All I can say is "jeez, not again". Disney's definitely having a rough summer.


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Postby Cerberus » Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:23 am

Oh dear.
I can see this being the big disappointment of my holiday.
They have a month to get it going again before they have to deal with me clinging to the ride entrance in fits of tears. Or something...
I also have a month to figure out how best to approach the task of making them feel bad for depriving me of my joy :wink:

It looks to me like the red train got to the final brakes after the final helix and didn't move from there, allowing the purple train to slip up it's backside.
As for the reason why the collision was only mild, perhaps the purple train hit enough of the brake section before shunting the red train to kill the majority of its speed.

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Postby BiCoastal Kid » Sat Jul 30, 2005 6:08 am

^Yeah, if the other train was already on that brake section, that means the brakes were more than likely still closed, meaning they would have slowed the train faster. You hit those brakes pretty hard, so I'd be guessing that's why this wasn't too major of an incident. Had those brakes been open the train would have FLEW into the back of the other train.

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Postby FlyingScooter » Sat Jul 30, 2005 6:28 am

After a summer like this, I can't iamgine what Disney's insurance rates will launch to.
Wow.

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Postby SharkTums » Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:10 am

THANK YOU COASTER1!!!

If this was like a braking, sensor, computer issues, I don't believe that it's Intamin's fault either! Don't they have another company do all that stuff?

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Postby robbalvey » Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:15 am

^ Agreed. It always really bothers me when people start instantly blaming the coaster manufacturer, or the park, or whoever.

Most people that make those claims either:

A. Usually have clue what they are talking about.

B. Most likely have no clue what they are talking about.

C. Are a mute.

There are so many 'moving parts' so to speak that are manufactured by several different people on a coaster or any large piece of machinery for that matter (like an airplane, cruise ship, jigsaw puzzle, etc) that it could be any number of reasons why something failed.

Instantly pointing the blame at Intamin, B&M, or whoever, even if it DOES turn out to be that party's fault, is just a sign of ignorance, IMO.

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